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Stars Could Shine In Many Universes

A commonplace of cosmologists who argue the anthropic principle is the assumption that if any or a few of the constants of nature took on an even slightly different value, life could not have evolved — perhaps even stars and galaxies would not form. Science News reports on a new calculation showing that, to the contrary, star formation could happen in up to one-quarter of universes with different values of three important constants. "In fact, all universes can support the existence of stars, provided that the definition of star is interpreted broadly," said the researcher, Fred Adams. "...calculations suggest that, contrary to some previous claims, stars are not only common in our cosmos but are also ablaze in myriad other universes, where the laws of physics may be drastically different... Had Adams found that the range of parameters that allowed for stars was very small, that would have suggested that the laws of physics in our universe have been 'fine-tuned' to allow for star formation... Instead, Adams' study shows that our universe doesn't seem particularly special in that regard."

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  1. Zug zug by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I dont read slashdot for 2 days and I missed the fact that there are more than 1 universes... shit!

    1. Re:Zug zug by Malevolyn · · Score: 2, Funny

      There's also the semi-popular negaverse. In fact, there's two.

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    2. Re:Zug zug by inzy · · Score: 4, Funny

      When I was small and liked to make shit up, I designed "flyingpigs theory" which has 1,235.656565 universes. So there. It's string theory, but with a more realistic name and a bigger number (so it must be better right?).

      there's a difference between theory and hypothesis.

      one has a grounding in reality, one can be made up by 10 year-olds and still be 'valid'

      guess which yours is

    3. Re:Zug zug by commodoresloat · · Score: 3, Funny

      yeah but in another universe he trounced MightyMartian with the ultimate comeback, and MM flew back to Mars to cry to his mama!

    4. Re:Zug zug by Profane+MuthaFucka · · Score: 3, Funny

      You missed that joke totally. I swear, the only things indivisible in this thread are your ass cheeks. Loosen up!

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  2. A commonplace of cosmologists by Nom+du+Keyboard · · Score: 2, Funny

    A commonplace of cosmologists

    That's funny, I always thought they came in herds.

    Or maybe in packages - contents may have expanded during shipping.

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    1. Re:A commonplace of cosmologists by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      It's a cluster of cosmologists, a phalanx of physicists, an aggregation of astronomers...

  3. Re:so by niceone · · Score: 2, Funny

    Yes, the design is so good it works even if the 'constants' are way off. Convinces me, now I just need to work out which religion to sign up for!

  4. Finally! by seanonymous · · Score: 5, Funny

    I can't wait to meet the evil me and see how I look with a pointy beard.

    1. Re:Finally! by whathappenedtomonday · · Score: 4, Funny

      That's because you wear a pointy beard.

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  5. Re:Still dumb by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Lay of the shrooms, maaaan.

  6. Re:This makes no sense! by $RANDOMLUSER · · Score: 4, Funny

    Oh stop it. In a parallel universe, this makes perfect sense.

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  7. Re:In lameness terms, please? by jessica_alba · · Score: 2, Funny

    but what if i stick my head in the sand?

  8. Popper Is Turning in his Grave by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I dont read slashdot for 2 days and I missed the fact that there are more than 1 universes... shit!

    Only physicists can get away with this sort of crap. Any other field of science would be up in arms. Where is the falsifiability, asks Sir Karl Popper in his grave?

    Louis Savain

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    1. Re:Popper Is Turning in his Grave by hobo+sapiens · · Score: 2, Funny

      Pretty much. In fact, all universes could have stars given that your parameters for what constitutes star is broad enough. In our universe, it's a ball of incandescant gas, in another universe it's a radioactive rock, in another universe it's a feces throwing monkey. Not much to see here. How clever.

      This isn't science, it's philosophy.

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    2. Re:Popper Is Turning in his Grave by flewp · · Score: 3, Funny

      Considering Paris Hilton is famous for being basically nothing more than a rich party girl, and given the popularity of Youtube these days, I bet even a feces throwing monkey could become a star in OUR universe.

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  9. Re:there are other marble bags? by CaptainPatent · · Score: 4, Funny

    i thought "uni" meant one and only.

    doesn't "uni" mean one and only?

    Which is why I find your double post so delightfully ironic!

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  10. The multi-universal meaning of life by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I wonder if Adams found that the range of parameters would all result in the answer to the meaning of life in all universes being 42.

  11. when are scientists going to acknowledge by evwah · · Score: 2, Funny

    that the universe is truly just a 4 quadrant cube with 4- 24 hour days rotating simultaneously within 1- 24 hour rotation of a 4 quadrant created earth?

  12. depending on your definition... by inzy · · Score: 1, Funny

    "all universes can support the existence of stars, provided that the definition of star is interpreted broadly"

    hell yeah, in fact there's a 'star' right here on my desk

    of course you must accept that my definition of 'star' looks remarkably like your definition of 'cup of coffee', but that's a minor point

  13. Re:What is the point of stars...if you have no mat by Tablizer · · Score: 2, Funny

    The Standard Model has 19 free parameters ... This guy varies [just] TWO of them plus G

    But varying the other 16 produced hairy women, so he skipped them.