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Obama's Evolving Stance On NASA

mknewman writes "The Houston Chronicle is reporting a change in Obama's stance on NASA, saying his position on space exploration continued to evolve Sunday as the Illinois Democrat endorsed a congressional plan to add $2 billion to NASA's budget and agreed to back at least one more space shuttle mission."

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  1. Obama Should Love NASA by Apple+Acolyte · · Score: 0, Troll

    He finds ways to justify all sorts of unconstitutional, unnecessary spending of the American tax payer's dollar (like his proposed $80B/year for international poverty), so why not NASA?

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    1. Re:Obama Should Love NASA by MJMullinII · · Score: 0, Troll

      I see. So you're comfortable with voting for a thinly-veiled Socialist radical. Good for you, douche-bag. Yes, the Republicans have an atrocious spending record, but you're a fool if you think they're no better than your beloved Spendocrats who think they are divinely entitled to the money taken from citizens. The two worst presidents of all time were LBJ and FDR - FDR for starting the American social welfare state and LBJ for greatly expanding it.

      So says the "Anonymous Coward".

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    2. Re:Obama Should Love NASA by something_wicked_thi · · Score: -1, Troll

      I didn't say they were no better. I said they were worse. The rest of your post is typical right-wing spew that I see so often. Why are Republicans such hateful people?

      Regardless, it's been shown that Obama's tax cut plans would help the lower income brackets more than McCain's, and tax the rich more. This is obviously what a tax system is supposed to do. As someone who makes a high income, I'd be better off, in the short term, with McCain, so I'm not arguing for my own personal gain here.

    3. Re:Obama Should Love NASA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

      I couldn't have said it better myself, tjstork. The entitlement system is going to bankrupt the country in short order due to the baby boomers, but all Obama wants is more more more. And there are many people, even here on Slashdot, so politically and economically retarded as to vote for him. Elect him and get another expansion of entitlements, to rival the expansion seen under LBJ's great socialist society. And that's aside from the rest of his insane spending agenda.

      Unfortunately, the best chance we had to do away with these pyramid schemes was under Ronnie, an otherwise great president who failed miserably in that regard.

    4. Re:Obama Should Love NASA by Apple+Acolyte · · Score: 0, Troll

      If you're going to spend on the poor at all, spend predominately on Americans. Helping out other countries is fine, but the American president's primary and overriding obligation is to the well-being and betterment of America. Invest in areas of the economy that will produce jobs for Americans. Better yet, lower taxes across the board, get federal spending in line and allow the people to keep more of their hard earned money so that they can create jobs, invest and generally take better care of their own lives. That's what a responsible candidate for the presidency would advocate. But B.H.O. wants to be president of the world - that's the problem. His politics are better suited to the socialist regimes of old Europe. Perhaps he should be running for office over there instead.

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    5. Re:Obama Should Love NASA by MJMullinII · · Score: 1, Troll

      Oh, how cute I was labeled a "Troll" because I pointed out that the poster didn't have the courage of his convictions.

      Getting to Social Security, you tell me ONE THING wrong with making sure people have something when they retire.

      I'm so sick of these 20 YEAR OLDS bitching because they are asked to contribute a fingernail slice of their income to help those who came before them.

      That is as selfish an snobbish as those (not that I'm accusing you of this, BTW) who scream they'd go to Canada before being Drafted.

      NO ONE has any sense of DUTY or RESPONSIBILITY now days.

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    6. Re:Obama Should Love NASA by tha_mink · · Score: 0, Troll

      Finally, I'd like to note that all the sources I see say that Obama has called for the US to eliminate its oil dependence in 10 years, but he hasn't promised it will be so. I read it like JFK's call to get to the moon before 1970. It's a goal for the nation, and maybe we'll make it, but it seems unlikely (like the moon landing did, not that I think we'll actually make it this time around).

      But JFK had a plan, Oboma has a "vision". Talk is cheap.

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    7. Re:Obama Should Love NASA by iminplaya · · Score: 0, Troll

      Maybe you should take a closer look at Woodrow Wilson and his ponzi scan they call "income tax". His support of the American Protective League, the draft, federal drug prohibition, eugenics, sticking his nose into the Middle East, etc etc etc.

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    8. Re:Obama Should Love NASA by Poppa · · Score: 0, Troll

      Democrats aren't heavy spenders? Take a look at the Washington state economy, where the Democrats control everything. We have the largest gas tax in the nation and state spending has gone through the roof! We are having record deficits now; we had a budget surplus when she started.

      2 years ago our liberal Governor took credit for how well our economy was going. She can now take credit for trashing it.

      The problem with the Republicans is that they controlled everything and let the power go to their head. I firmly believe we cannot let one party control everything like we did before. Washington state is a perfect example what will happen if the Democrats control everything.

      The Democratic Congress's approval rating is lower than Bush's! And you want to give them *more* power?!!!

    9. Re:Obama Should Love NASA by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 0, Troll
      OK, so let Colorado prohibit oil shale development. Let Utah and Wyoming go. But no, the Slavery Party in control of Congress (aka Democrats) refuse to allow exploration, testing, development or production.

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      Awfully hard to get the SLIGHTEST F_UCKING CLUE if you're prohibited from even trying... But it makes great sound bites for your extremist base!

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    10. Re:Obama Should Love NASA by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 0, Troll
      I see, so we should increase taxes on businesses right now so we can further hamper the economy? Is that the plan?

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      Seriously, between worry about recession or worrying about excess inflation, I don't know a single economist who would choose the former.

      and the tax cuts affected the rich and big companies more than the small and poor, so the oil companies were the beneficiaries

      Actually, this is false. Just like with the person income tax cuts the President Bush instituted. Percentage-wise, those on the BOTTOM end got more cuts. More people now pay ZERO income tax than did before the tax cuts. Sure, Mr. CEO is now paying 33% personal income tax on his million, rather than 39%, saving himself $60,000. But at the bottom end, you're paying 10% rather than 15%. And last time I checked, a 15% cut in tax rates (the top rate) is less than a 34% cut in tax rates (the bottom rate).

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  2. Evolving? by Jock+Kodimar · · Score: -1, Troll

    Evolving stance? Is that the PC version of flip flopping.

  3. Re:don't fall for it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    The only missle they both have plans for is the cock missle, and they want to put it in your ass. Meet the new boss, same as the old.

    Grab your ankles and enjoy the ride!

  4. We have enough peoblems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    We don't need NASA , we need to spend that money on people US Citizens Not illegal or foreigners.
    Anything NASA did or has done has had very little practical benefit to anyone , What they did boggles the imagination and it looks nice while doing little

    NASA A total waste of Money!!

  5. Evolving... by Illbay · · Score: 1, Troll

    ...is Obama-speak for "the focus group results just came in the mail, honey."

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  6. yes, but does it run linux? by alsta · · Score: 0, Troll

    First, Obama was absolutely certain that he would serve the State of Illinois better if he remained a State legislator, but then he had a change of heart. When Sen. Fitzgerald decided to not run, the Illinois Republican Party ran Jack Ryan. Obama ran against him and it turned out that Mr. Ryan had been at a porn club with his super hot wife Jeri Ryan. Reprehensible as this was, the Illinois Republican Party next mustered the colossal failure of a candidate Alan Keyes. Obama in no small part had the dysfunctional Illinois Republican Party to thank for his political success thus far.

    Next he said that he under no circumstances would run for president. He felt he would serve the State of Illinois better if he remained the Jr. Senator of Illinois. Then he had a change of heart.

    Now he ran for president in hotly contested primaries. During this time he had a number of bright ideas for the liberal base. He had a number of changes of heart during this time, but he finally clinched the presumptive nomination.

    A number of things have happened from illegal immigration and marijuana policy to DC vs Heller. All of which he has managed to have a change of heart about.

    I am not surprised that he has yet another change of heart with regard to NASA.

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  7. Another rope-a-dope by WheelDweller · · Score: -1, Troll

    I find myself writing most often about "new" stories that are variations-on-a-theme that we've seen so many times.

    Sure, this *could* be a trick, but there are some serious issues to face:

    - Obama thinks there are more than 57 states in America.
    - He thinks he sees dead war heroes at memorial ceremonies.
    - He decries religion ('bitter clingers') yet wants to be seen as one, himself
    - He now sees making money as selling out...now that he's made millions after getting his schooling

    And his party:

    - Wants us to so respect Europe's wishes to consider them our boss. Recall their mindset gave us two world wars, from which we saved them.

    - Wants to decide for us the light bulbs we can use, the cars we can drive, and the food we're permitted to eat. Fascism?

    - Has the full faith and trust of communist thinkers (who've been SUCH good achievers so far...)

    - Pushes homosexuality for all, in fact encourages it, and takes money from NAMBLA, the North American Man-Boy Love Association for permitting middle-aged men having gay sex with underaged boys. Creepy enough for you?

    - Is the source and power for all national hoaxes: The Ozone Hole(TM), Killer Bees(TM) and The Coming Ice Age(TM), and the Swine Flu(TM).

    But this has very, very little to do with Obama himself: the last three people the Democrats have fielded have been comically worthless. Can you actually say you'd permit these people to park your car:

    - John "I voted against it, before I voted for it" Kerry, who keeps marrying into more and more money. This guy can be paid to claim the sky is red, and actually believe it when the day is over.

    - Al "HennyPenny" Gore making millions (and stands to make more) with his 'sky is falling' hoax of Global Warming(TM).

    - John "Look at me- aren't I cute?" Edwards who takes self-absorbsion to new levels.

    These people are men based on gender, not accomplishments. The Democrat party is an empty-suit FACTORY.

    In fairness, I wouldn't vote for McCain on a bet. He's backs-tabbed the Conservatives so many times that now it's his turn. And the Left/Democrats love it: they call him a 'Maverick'. Ever notice how no Democrat gets that label? Not on their lives.

    So who to vote for? Anyone but Obama or McCain.

    NASA? Don't worry about it: we can't get there anyway.

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  8. Obama won't win by ThoreauHD · · Score: -1, Troll

    So who cares. Feel free to elect a socialist muslim spawned negro, when we're fighting 2/3's of what he represents. This is no time for a joke selling America off to muslims/communists/UN. Really, wtf are you people thinking. WW3 is coming. The last thing we need is this limp dicktard in office selling his own people to the wolves.

  9. Re:What pisses me off about NASA and welfare. by D.McGuiggin · · Score: 0, Troll

    "Just because *you* might not need welfare doesn't mean it's not required by society."

    No, that I need it has nothing to do with the fact that it's not needed, it wouldn't be needed even if I needed it.

    "Jesus christ I'm amazed someone has to spell it out to you, but then you seem like an American Republican, so I guess I shouldn't be that shocked."

    Yes, and you're a proven moron, so none of us are shocked that you're too stupid to see an alternative to a system that was broken when it was implemented, is still broken, and will always be broken.

    "Though I bet you're going to tell me you're a Libertarian, which you think is something different from republican."

    By "you" you mean "the dictionary" right? Or are you incapable of reading the definition of a word that large?

    "Insanity: you have it."

    Funny, it seems like it's YOU is is saying "do them same thing (with some stupid, ineffective little tweaks) and hope it does something different" which seems to be the popular definition of insanity these days.

    Welfare isn't necessary. Calling people names becasue your political bent means you support a shitty program that will never work will NEVER change that welfare is a joke, and so are your "points" and "views" on this subject.

    PS, the only reason you think your ideas aren't totally moronic is because you're fucking stoned all the time. Your inevitable response to my post (because you can't help replying when you've been proven wrong) won't change THAT either.