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RIAA 'Elektra V. Barker' Case Is Settled

NewYorkCountryLawyer writes "Elektra v. Barker, one of the leading cases repudiating the RIAA's 'making available' theory, has been settled. Unlike in most cases, the actual settlement agreement (PDF) is on file with the Court, and a matter of public record. Now Ms. Barker's attack on the constitutionality of the RIAA's damages theory, as well as her other defenses — including unclean hands based on MediaSentry's illegal behavior, the RIAA's inability to sue for statutory damages, and innocent infringement — will not be adjudicated, and it will fall on the shoulders of other defendants to carry the day on those issues. Ms. Barker, a young social worker who lives in the Bronx, once told p2pnet 'I love music. I grew up in a house where music was played all the time. We had milk crates filled with albums.... So to be sued for having music files on my computer is an insult. It's a slap in the face. This experience has left such a bad taste in my mouth that I wanted to swear off music.'"

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  1. So... by hidannik · · Score: 5, Funny

    Barker: We had milk crates filled with albums....
    Elektra: So what have you done for us lately?

    Hans Dannik

    1. Re:So... by multisync · · Score: 5, Funny

      We had milk crates filled with albums....

      She'd better watch out, or the milk company will be after her for stealing their crates.

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    2. Re:So... by croddy · · Score: 5, Funny

      What's great about milk crates is that the milk bottlers finally retooled all their gear, so the crates were too small to hold 12" records. Narrower milk bottles, smaller crates, differently sized shelves in the stores...

      And they got that all done just in time, too, because the new crates fit two rows of CDs just perfectly.

    3. Re:So... by kannibal_klown · · Score: 5, Insightful

      There are some concepts that one should dedicate their lives to: freedom, equality, free speech, freedom of religion, etc. People have laid down their lives for these.

      Then there are some that, while important, do not merit spending your entire life on. The time and money spent on this issue was probably too much for her, and upon reach an agreeable settlement she probably said enough is enough.

      Life isn't about money or lawsuits or even sticking it to greedy cowards. Life is about living.

      Spending time with friends and family is priceless, and dealing with these greedy labels probably robbed her of enough birthday parties, outings, and nights of sleep.

      At some point, for some issues, you need to pass the baton. If you want to continue the fight, then pick up the baton and yell a battle cry. Otherwise, do not question someone wishing to end a struggle that they do not want to spend years on end fighting.

    4. Re:So... by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 5, Informative

      Any chance we'll get some of the reasoning behind the settlement? I understand that taking these thugs to court is a heavy burden, but after fighting it so long, why give up now?

      Litigation is a very stressful thing. She fought the good fight for years, and in doing so performed an important public service. She leaves behind a legacy of (a) having sealed the doom of the RIAA's creative "making available" theory, and (b) providing a detailed blueprint of defenses that can be litigated by RIAA defendants who did engage in file sharing. Sometimes people just have to get on with their lives.

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    5. Re:So... by cushdan · · Score: 5, Funny

      excessive quoting is going to fill up the tubes
      Please quote responsibly.

    6. Re:So... by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 5, Informative

      I'm not questioning motives, more looking for a press release or statement, or something to that effect, detailing why she gave up the fight when things had turned to her favor. I know firsthand the emotional and financial burden of being the target of a multi-(dollars earned per lifetime) dollar lawsuit from a car accident in my younger years. I also know that if the offer to settle for a couple thousand dollars was presented to me when I finished thrashing the suit of the plaintiff, I would've used that as yet more damning evidence that "Now they think their (pain and suffering/intellectual property loss) is only worth $X,000 instead of $Y,000,000...." I guess what I'm asking for here is not "I think they settled because of abc" but rather from the horses mouth (so to speak), "I settled because of xyz. With the decision on the table here presented in one neat little package (PDF? bleh), we're getting _less than_ half the story.

      OK here it is:

      Ms. Barker was a pioneer in leading the fight against the RIAA's "making available" theory, and in doing that she performed an important public service for all of us. Now after 3 years of having this case hanging over her head, the time had come to move into Phase II of the litigation, in which she would again have been leading the fight, this time by asserting key affirmative defenses. In fact, Ms. Barker's answer provides a detailed blueprint to those defendants who have in fact engaged in file sharing as to some of the defenses that are available to them. None of these defenses have been litigated before, so it would have taken a lot of work, and a lot of time, and would that have never been litigated before. What is more, once the defenses had been adjudicated, there might have been appeals which would have raised certain key errors in Judge Karas's March 31st decision repudiating the RIAA's "making available" theory, but creating an "offering to distribute for purposes of redistribution" theory which likewise was without a basis in the Copyright Act. Rather than going down that road, Ms. Barker decided to put this stressful litigation behind her, and pass the torch to others to carry it on.

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    7. Re:So... by Lookin4Trouble · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Thanks NYCL, to the point and as little legalese as possible. You've done more for the reputation of lawyers everywhere than any person I've ever met before.

    8. Re:So... by suck_burners_rice · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The truly sad part of all this is the proof, once again, that if you're a big and resourceful organization, you can win any lawsuit, deserved or not, simply by wearing out the other party. Drag the case on forever. File motion after motion. Sooner or later, you'll win because the other party will run out of resources, or will settle with you just to cut their losses and get the damn thing over with. This is not justice. This is an insult to innocent people everywhere who can be victimized by other people who are using the law as a tool for gain at the expense, pain, and suffering of others. I think there needs to be a much bigger fight, where thousands (if not millions) of people will contribute to an organization that will fight to get the terms of copyright reduced to their original values and to get other ridiculous laws like the DMCA off the books. There is no reason in the world that copyrights should last as long as they do these days, nor is there any reason that the law should heavily favor copyright holders while neglecting the rights of everyone else. I say, if it's over 20 years old, it belongs in the public domain. Furthermore, I think a fund should be set up to collect donations for the victim of this case.

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    9. Re:So... by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 5, Informative

      I get the impression here that by settling, even though she lost some money, she also made her legal contributions permanent precedents available for use by other cases. But if she had kept on, she risked backtracking and upsetting those precedents on appeal. Now that it is over, the RIAA can't appeal the precedents. Is this even close to correct? If it is, then it is probably much better to have settled for such a paltry sum. Related to that, is there any way for strangers to contribute to her payments?

      Yes you can send me a check payable to "Ray Beckerman PC, As Attorneys", indicating that it's for Ms. Barker, and I will send it along to her.

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    10. Re:So... by Paradise+Pete · · Score: 5, Insightful

      A corporation does not get tired or beaten down, especially by an individual.

      Shareholders do. Owners do. The business model the recording industry wants to pursue is not viable. It is bad for *everyone*. The sooner that becomes clear, the sooner we have a reasonable and healthy industry that benefits both listeners and artists alike. The current model turning into a dismal failure makes it that much easier for a good model to emerge and flourish.

    11. Re:So... by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 5, Informative

      In your opinion, what were the chances of Ms. Barker winning the suit, had she not settled?

      Good question. If you take a good look at Ms. Barker's answer you'll see that her defenses weren't about winning, they were about keeping the damages reasonable. E.g., if the RIAA were precluded from recovering statutory damages for the 8 recordings in exhibit A, based on the 4th affirmative defense, it still could easily have "won" the case and recovered its actual damages of approximately $3 US (or 2 euros).

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  2. So... by Lookin4Trouble · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Any chance we'll get some of the reasoning behind the settlement? I understand that taking these thugs to court is a heavy burden, but after fighting it so long, why give up now?

  3. Milk Crates by Some+guy+named+Chris · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The funny thing is that the milk crates were almost certainly stolen and illegal for them to have as well.

    1. Re:Milk Crates by gnick · · Score: 5, Funny

      I've seen milk kept in bags, but it seems terribly inefficient. Sure, it keeps well, but how many people have the room to keep a 1-ton leather bag around just to dispense milk? Not to mention the maintenance and clean-up involved. Not for me - I'll just stick to my plastic jugs, thank you very much.

      (Not to mention I'm not sure I'd be able to restrain myself from just extracting milk. I'm told that, apart from the milk, those giant leather bags are mostly filled with meat!)

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    2. Re:Milk Crates by be951 · · Score: 5, Funny

      In Canada, music comes in milk crates.

      Yeah, that's no problem. It's having your milk come in CD cases that's a bitch.

  4. Killing music for everyone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "We had milk crates filled with albums.... So to be sued for having music files on my computer is an insult. It's a slap in the face. This experience has left such a bad taste in my mouth that I wanted to swear off music."

    That's so sad but so true. I guess the truth is I don't listen to mainstream music anymore. It's kinda something I don't want anything to do with and the greedy record companies are the reason. The RIAA have turned what should be a cultural commodity and property of the people into a liability. Fuck the RIAA and everybody associated with them.

    1. Re:Killing music for everyone by ProteusQ · · Score: 5, Interesting

      1.) No one is obliged to buy an item that is overpriced. In fact, an underground economy cannot exist without either rationing or artificially high price floors. Since we don't have rationing in this case, it follows that the price of music media is too high given the current market. If you really want to make a sale, remember the adage: "If a customer wants to give you money, you let them." Customers have spoken with their wallets and said, "Let us download good, DRM-free content." The RIAA has enforced the media industries' stance that such sales will be considered piracy. But the term "piracy" has lost it historical meaning, since now it is no longer the case that 1 pirate sale equals 1 lost sale in the legitimate market. Someone who downloaded the entire Beatles catalog will still buy paraphernalia. It does mean that the market has shifted such that a good song is now a vehicle for concert attendance, t-shirts, posters, etc., rather than a source of income in and of itself. This is a much better arrangement from the consumer's POV compared to 20 years ago, when it was likely that a $15 CD with 11 songs would contain 2 worth listening to. And in a market driven economy, what's good for the consumer generally wins out in the end.

      2.) If humans want to make a profit, they have to make a product that others want to buy at prices that reflect the current market. If I choose to sell a decent graphic novel of my own creation for $100 per issue, I shouldn't be surprised when I find it for free on the Internet. $100 is too high for a graphic novel by any stretch, and I didn't offer it in the media my customers' wanted. The tack you would seem to advocate is to sue my customers because they've broken the law. True, but if I want to stay in business, it might not hurt to try offering the issues for free on the net and then selling paper editions: regular for $10, deluxe for $100. The market will then dictate what to do next. Humans tend to upgrade their stuff based on their incomes, be it better editions, DVD's, or concert attendance of their favorite artists, so with my model, good content will still generate a profit.

      3.) Content creators are not owed a profit by their customers or by their management. They have to earn it based on what they have to offer and what the public is willing to pay for. Offer what the customer wants at a price the market reflects, and profit generally occurs. Doing otherwise, especially suing customers, shows short-sightedness, greed, and egotism.

      It comes down to this: do you want to make a profit in this market or not? This market is not the market of 20 years ago, and no amount of name-calling or foot-stamping will change that. It's no longer possible to have a millionaire lifestyle through royalties off of one song written in 1960. If your customers want music for free, remember that they buy tickets, t-shirts, coffee mugs, posters, and subscribe to a web site in order to be the first to download the latest album.

  5. $6050 paid over 55 months. by Vellmont · · Score: 5, Informative

    That about sums it up. After a lengthy court battle the RIAA settled for what I'd guess is a few hours of lawyers fees. Essentially the RIAA figured they couldn't win and decided to pack it up in fear the arguments against them would be ruled valid.

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  6. Very, very telling by unity100 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This experience has left such a bad taste in my mouth that I wanted to swear off music.

    indeed, these rascals are alienating untold numbers of youth from music. just for a few dollars more, they are not only killing an industry, but an ART. no exaggeration - dont just think about the actual number sued - think about how many people, friends, relatives, colleagues and alike, got adversely affected by what their acquaintance went through. and they are doing it for what ? to sustain an outdated business model.

    its a crime against humanity, civilization. whereas today's courts are too 'old' to understand the matter in its core, future generations of judges and lawmakers wont be as such. woe to the people of young generations who join riaa in their shitty crusade by working for them or the media cartels - for they will still be alive when future generations take the matter into hand, whereas the bosses who used them to their own selfish ends will be long dead.

  7. Re:Oh well. by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 5, Informative

    I bet the whole court thing isn't easy at all, all the stress over something that's gotten so ridiculous. I hope she finds some relief in the settlement, but it would have been really nice to have another person fighting back. She could'a been'a contenda'!

    She was more than a contender; she actually won the fight. She just decided to pass on a rematch, but in my book she goes out a champion.

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  8. Re:Welcome to the Music Industry by argent · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Where "ripping off artists to make sure they don't get paid is okay" as long as you've got them to sign some kind of contract, however convoluted, because of course all musicians are expert contract lawyers AND are negotiating on a level playing field.

    Get this through your head: there are very few good guys.

    Napster were bad guys (and the fact that there's still a "Napster" in any form gives me a bad taste in my mouth).
    The labels are the bad guys.
    People sourcing ripped torrents are the bad guys.
    The RIAA are the bad guys.
    People illegally posting copyrighted binaries to Usenet are the bad guys.
    The judges who let the RIAA get away with it are the bad guys.
    Psystar are bad guys.

    Pointing out that one set of bad guys are bad guys doesn't mean that another set of bad guys are good guys.

  9. Re:$110 per month for 24 months by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 5, Informative

    And if the mail runs late or she misses a payment or she bounces a check, she's on the hook for double (over $12,000.00) the settlement amount

    Minus any payments received. And only if they give her written notice, and she fails to cure.

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  10. Pirated from Salon, for your elucidation by AP31R0N · · Score: 5, Informative

    Courtney Love
    June 14, 2000

    Today I want to talk about piracy and music. What is piracy? Piracy is the act of stealing an artist's work without any intention of paying for it. I'm not talking about Napster-type software.

    I'm talking about major label recording contracts.

    I want to start with a story about rock bands and record companies, and do some recording-contract math:

    This story is about a bidding-war band that gets a huge deal with a 20 percent royalty rate and a million-dollar advance. (No bidding-war band ever got a 20 percent royalty, but whatever.) This is my "funny" math based on some reality and I just want to qualify it by saying I'm positive it's better math than what Edgar Bronfman Jr. [the president and CEO of Seagram, which owns Polygram] would provide.

    What happens to that million dollars?

    They spend half a million to record their album. That leaves the band with $500,000. They pay $100,000 to their manager for 20 percent commission. They pay $25,000 each to their lawyer and business manager.

    That leaves $350,000 for the four band members to split. After $170,000 in taxes, there's $180,000 left. That comes out to $45,000 per person.

    That's $45,000 to live on for a year until the record gets released.

    The record is a big hit and sells a million copies. (How a bidding-war band sells a million copies of its debut record is another rant entirely, but it's based on any basic civics-class knowledge that any of us have about cartels. Put simply, the antitrust laws in this country are basically a joke, protecting us just enough to not have to re-name our park service the Phillip Morris National Park Service.)

    So, this band releases two singles and makes two videos. The two videos cost a million dollars to make and 50 percent of the video production costs are recouped out of the band's royalties.

    The band gets $200,000 in tour support, which is 100 percent recoupable.

    The record company spends $300,000 on independent radio promotion. You have to pay independent promotion to get your song on the radio; independent promotion is a system where the record companies use middlemen so they can pretend not to know that radio stations -- the unified broadcast system -- are getting paid to play their records.

    All of those independent promotion costs are charged to the band.

    Since the original million-dollar advance is also recoupable, the band owes $2 million to the record company.

    If all of the million records are sold at full price with no discounts or record clubs, the band earns $2 million in royalties, since their 20 percent royalty works out to $2 a record.

    Two million dollars in royalties minus $2 million in recoupable expenses equals ... zero!

    How much does the record company make?

    They grossed $11 million.

    It costs $500,000 to manufacture the CDs and they advanced the band $1 million. Plus there were $1 million in video costs, $300,000 in radio promotion and $200,000 in tour support.

    The company also paid $750,000 in music publishing royalties.

    They spent $2.2 million on marketing. That's mostly retail advertising, but marketing also pays for those huge posters of Marilyn Manson in Times Square and the street scouts who drive around in vans handing out black Korn T-shirts and backwards baseball caps. Not to mention trips to Scores and cash for tips for all and sundry.

    Add it up and the record company has spent about $4.4 million.

    So their profit is $6.6 million; the band may as well be working at a 7-Eleven.

    Of course, they had fun. Hearing yourself on the radio, selling records, getting new fans and being on TV is great, but now the band doesn't have enough money to pay the rent and nobody has any credit.

    Worst of all, after all this, the band owns none of its work ... they can pay the mortgage forever but they'll never own the house. Like I said: Sharecropping. Our media says, "Boo hoo, poor pop stars, they had a

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  11. Re:NYCL's Comments by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 5, Informative

    My question is, I've read the settlement, and it seems pretty "boilerplate", but What does NYCL, (If he can talk about it) think of a) the terms of the settlement, and b) the fact that it was settled at all?

    Contrary to what we see in television and movies, it is very rare for cases to go to trial, and the vast majority of cases are settled. The system would break down completely were that not the case.

    We were entering a new phase of the litigation, which would have taken a lot of time and energy, and would have broken a lot of new ground, so it would have been a major decision on each party's part to jump into that second phase. Also, the Judge had ordered the parties to go to a settlement conference, thus indicating that the Judge himself felt that the case should be settled, or at least that the parties should make a major effort in that regard. So it was a very logical juncture at which to settle the case.

    As to the terms of the settlement they are what they are, and at least this time you can see the actual settlement terms and form your own opinion.

    As to my opinion, I guess I'm pretty predictable. You know what I think of the RIAA, and of their legal positions, and paying them anything, or agreeing to any of their overbroad injunctive provisions, is always bothersome to me. I look on any settlement with them as unfair, because these are lawsuits which should never have been brought in the first place, and they deal with a "micro-payment" copyright infringement, where in the real world the record company is out of pocket around 35 cents per song file. If the RIAA were relegated to collecting its actual damages, none of these cases would ever have been brought, as in most of the cases the actual provable damages are in the neighborhood of $3.00 US (or 2 Euros).

    So I am predictably (a) happy for my client that she can put the litigation behind her, (b) disappointed that I didn't get to litigate the affirmative defenses, and (c) not satisfied with the terms, since I believe all of these settlements in the thousands of dollars are wrong.

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