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Vendors Rally While Windows Sleeps

Anti-Globalism sends along a PCWorld article outlining two technologies from Intel and Dell that do an end run around Windows. "Dell, Intel and their partners announced last week new technologies that represent major leaps forward for mobility. The companies seem to have discovered the secret to making such bold leaps: Cut Microsoft out of the deal. One technology involves enabling users to gain instant access to a laptop's e-mail, browser and other basic functionality — without booting Windows at all. The second technology enables an Internet-based message to wake a Windows PC from sleep mode. These new technologies are perfect metaphors for what's happening in the industry... Windows is asleep while Microsoft's own partners give users what they really want."

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  1. Re:Here's a strategy for Microsoft by bendodge · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Well yeah, but I'm sure Dell wouldn't just open wide and swallow that. And a licensing clause like that sounds like a good target for more anti-trust lawsuits, which the EU seems to relish.

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  2. Re:It's the BIOS, not windows by jackchance · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It doesn't matter if it's in the BIOS, or uses a second processor.

    It does matter that it uses a 2nd processor that is very power efficient. I haven't used a windows laptop in a while, but if you just wake your computer from sleep how long does it really take?

    I think the real advantage of this is battery savings from running on an ARM processor.

    From the article:

    If you use only the Latitude ON system, battery life lasts not hours but days, according to Dell.

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  3. Re:Here's a strategy for Microsoft by node+3 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I know this is not illegal.

    This is the exact type of behavior MS was convicted of a decade ago.

  4. Re:They're missing out on a great opportunity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    We'll get the next version of Windows a year early!

    There was a delay in the release of Vista... and look how buggy it is. Now you want them to release it much earlier? I say, let them take all the time they need!

  5. Re:Three Cheers for Appliance Based Computing by pz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A long time ago, and by internet standards, I mean in pre-historic times, there was a computer called the Lisp Machine, designed and built at MIT's Artificial Intelligence Laboratory. We're talking mid-1980s here. That's more than TWO DECADES AGO. Your cell phone would run circles around a LispM.

    One of the amazing things about LispMs is that they came up really, really quickly, despite having very large and slow disk drives. They did this by essentially performing a full boot and then saving that precise memory image (including all peripheral state) to a special part of the disk called a band. This is not unlike the modern laptops' suspend-to-disk feature, except that bands were pretty static. The intent was that you set up your machine just so, and then wrote what you felt was the canonical startup state to the band. Then, every time the machine started, the band loaded in from disk, and POOF! was ready to go.

    It was a radical departure, and one that, unfortunately, was not learned by the industry. I would *love* to have my laptop use bands. Save-to-disk is nice and all, but since laptop hardware (and Linux support for it) is so f-ing flaky, it's far better to have a feature to boot quickly to a known-good state.

    What's the relevance here? LispMs were as fast to boot as you'd expect for a computational appliance. OMFG if I have to boot my current Linux desktop or Windows laptop it takes eons to come up, and that's with hardware that's probably three orders of magnitude faster. Our modern machines should be in a known, operable state in under a second, and the only reason they aren't is poor engineering / pressure from Microsoft.

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  6. Re:Sensationlist much? by ozmanjusri · · Score: 5, Insightful
    This is retarded and sensational.

    No, this is just another example of how a monopoly impedes progress.

    The fact that industry is having to work around Microsoft's stranglehold instead of simply shifting to another vendor is a sad indictment of governments' handling of an abusive monopolist.

    Microsoft should have been split at the original DoJ antitrust case. It still should.

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  7. "...give users what they really want"? by Lazy+Jones · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I don't think users would like their PCs to be accessible from the 'net while they have switched them off. That's just what all the law enforcement / domestic surveillance agencies want, a perfect way to spy on people ...

    Similar technology is already used on mobile phones, they can be remotely reprogrammed to pretend that they're switched off while they're recording and transmitting your conversation.

    We don't live in a 1984 world yet, but the usual greedy Megacorps are trying to patent the required technology already...

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  8. Re:Sensationlist much? by ozmanjusri · · Score: 5, Insightful
    If Microsoft were adding features to Windows, like when they added an internet browser and media player, would you be happier?

    Yep, provided they were:

    1. Easily replaceable by OEMs
    2. Easily replaceable by my own choices
    3. Coded to follow open standards
    4. Costed separately from the core OS (So I could save $10 by deselecting IE or WMP, for example.)

    Those constraints would allow fair competition. If Microsoft were then able to produce better browsers and media players than the competition, they'd deserve my money.

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  9. Re:Sensationlist much? by JasterBobaMereel · · Score: 4, Insightful

    More popular does not equal better
    More popular does not equal easier
    More popular does not equal simpler
    More popular does not equal more advanced

    A monopoly helps no-one except the company who is the monopoly

    People use windows because most people use windows and no other reason!

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