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Vendors Rally While Windows Sleeps

Anti-Globalism sends along a PCWorld article outlining two technologies from Intel and Dell that do an end run around Windows. "Dell, Intel and their partners announced last week new technologies that represent major leaps forward for mobility. The companies seem to have discovered the secret to making such bold leaps: Cut Microsoft out of the deal. One technology involves enabling users to gain instant access to a laptop's e-mail, browser and other basic functionality — without booting Windows at all. The second technology enables an Internet-based message to wake a Windows PC from sleep mode. These new technologies are perfect metaphors for what's happening in the industry... Windows is asleep while Microsoft's own partners give users what they really want."

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  1. They're missing out on a great opportunity by duckInferno · · Score: 5, Funny

    Put microsoft's hand in warm water while they're at it. We'll get the next version of Windows a year early!

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    1. Re:They're missing out on a great opportunity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      We'll get the next version of Windows a year early!

      There was a delay in the release of Vista... and look how buggy it is. Now you want them to release it much earlier? I say, let them take all the time they need!

  2. Vista just isn't good with normal laptops yet by rolfwind · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It takes way too many resources. Maybe 3 years down the line, but Microsoft really dropped the ball by ignoring the reality of the fastest growing segment in computer sales.

    Because of this, Apple is having great sales on the high/upper-mid-end with it's very nice line notebooks and Linux is getting a start on the lower end.

    Without Vista, I don't think it would have been possible for Linux to get a foothold.

    The year of Linux on the Desktop is distant, but thanks to Microsoft, the Year of Linux on the notebook looks like it's becoming reality sooner rather than later.

    And the way a distro like Ubuntu evolves so quickly from year to year, I think it's a mistake that MS can't afford to do again.

    In a few years, we'll see that MS was the one who dropped the ball to allow the competition the elbow room to come in.

    It's also making things worse by having so many different versions and while it's debatable that Vista should have been wholly 64bit (definitely by Windows 7), MS doesn't even have the decency to provide 32/64bit on the same disc but is trying to grab every nickel it can from it's customers who chose one or the other (many discs don't qualify from alternative media).

  3. Re:WTF is this shit? by sexconker · · Score: 5, Informative

    Fuck it, I'll reply to myself.

    "Microsoft has been pushing Remote Desktop and its communications software for years. But apparently it never occurred to anyone in Redmond that people might want to leave their PCs in sleep mode, then have them turn on for remote access or VoIP calls."

    Remote Desktop supports wake on LAN.
    When you try to connect, it tries to wake the machine up. If the machine has wake on lan enabled, and you don't have any NAT issues, it'll work.

  4. Correction by sexconker · · Score: 5, Funny

    Apple is having decent sales in the overpriced, zealot segment.

  5. Re:Three Cheers for Appliance Based Computing by sexconker · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Now it's "I just need web and email.".
    Next month it'll be "Sound would be nice.".
    Then you'll be bitching "Damn we need support for youtube and flickr up in this bitch.".
    Then you'll say "Can we get a fucking IM client and some printer support? It's 2010!".

    Ultra mobile / webtop / nettop / netbook / whatever is retarded.

  6. No, only I'm New Here by New+Here · · Score: 5, Funny

    No, only I'm New Here

    1. Re:No, only I'm New Here by fragbait · · Score: 5, Funny

      What is the average amount of time in between times you can spring this joke?

      -fragbait

  7. Re:It's the BIOS, not windows by jackchance · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It doesn't matter if it's in the BIOS, or uses a second processor.

    It does matter that it uses a 2nd processor that is very power efficient. I haven't used a windows laptop in a while, but if you just wake your computer from sleep how long does it really take?

    I think the real advantage of this is battery savings from running on an ARM processor.

    From the article:

    If you use only the Latitude ON system, battery life lasts not hours but days, according to Dell.

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  8. Re:Great... by node+3 · · Score: 5, Funny

    we can wake Windows remotely. This seems like a major security issue if not implemented correctly.

    No kidding. Waking Windows locally is already a big enough security issue as it is!

  9. Re:Sensationlist much? by ozmanjusri · · Score: 5, Insightful
    This is retarded and sensational.

    No, this is just another example of how a monopoly impedes progress.

    The fact that industry is having to work around Microsoft's stranglehold instead of simply shifting to another vendor is a sad indictment of governments' handling of an abusive monopolist.

    Microsoft should have been split at the original DoJ antitrust case. It still should.

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  10. Re:It's the BIOS, not windows by BronsCon · · Score: 5, Informative
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  11. Re:Sensationlist much? by ozmanjusri · · Score: 5, Insightful
    If Microsoft were adding features to Windows, like when they added an internet browser and media player, would you be happier?

    Yep, provided they were:

    1. Easily replaceable by OEMs
    2. Easily replaceable by my own choices
    3. Coded to follow open standards
    4. Costed separately from the core OS (So I could save $10 by deselecting IE or WMP, for example.)

    Those constraints would allow fair competition. If Microsoft were then able to produce better browsers and media players than the competition, they'd deserve my money.

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  12. Re:Sensationlist much? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    The last couple of decades have been a bit of a blur to you, haven't they?

  13. Re:Sensationlist much? by dido · · Score: 5, Informative

    Where the have you been all these years? Nothing stopping hardware OEMs from selling hardware with non-Windows OSes my ass. Jean-Louis Gassée found that one out when he first began to try pitching BeOS to hardware OEMs. He wrote an article on why PC manufacturers won't sell non-MS products (more info on this here and here). The Windows monopoly is reinforced by anti-competitive agreements that Microsoft has with all of the major hardware OEMs. If one of these OEMs violates the agreement, they lose the OEM discount on all the other Windows PCs they sell, and consequently their Windows-based computers wind up costing much more than those vendors that decided to abide by the agreement. You can guess what that would mean to a major OEM.

    In a way, this move by Dell is interesting since it shows to what lengths they've gone to avoid violating the contract. They could have used the same CPU to run the Linux firmware here, but no, they had to include a full ARM SoC to do the same instead. Granted, that has some advantages (given that the x86 CPU is much too overpowered and would eat the battery alive), but perhaps the agreements they have with Microsoft may also have something to do with it.

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