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Open-Source College Textbooks Gaining Mindshare

bcrowell writes "The LA Times has a front-page article about how open-source college textbooks are starting to gain traction. One author says, 'I couldn't continue assigning idiotic books that are starting to break $200,' and describes attempts by commercial publishers to bribe faculty to use their books. The Cal State system has started a Digital Marketplace to help faculty find out about their options for free and non-free digital textbooks, and the student group PIRG has collected 1200 faculty signatures on a statement of support for open textbooks."

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  1. Re:Old fashioned way by jhfry · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This assumes that next semester they use the same book. Publishers have been known to make changes every couple of years and discontinue the older version... forcing the professors to upgrade, making the old version obsolete.

    Not to mention that I have never seen a buy back for anything close the original sale price.

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  2. Re:What's the deal? by jhfry · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Exactly... the US educational system is, like everything else, all about making money. I actually had professors tell us on the first day of class that we needed to have a certain book, but (wink wink) we won't actually use it during the course. Appearently he was being forced to name a text book, but wanted us to return it at our earliest convenience.

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  3. Re:Many a foolish man has crossed Houghton Mifflin by larry+bagina · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Aside from the money, a writing or contributing to a published book is a good line item on their cv and counts towards tenure, peer recognition, professional requirements, etc. I can't find the quote right now, but Terence Parr (ANTLR parser generator, USF professor) stated that's one reason the ANTLR v3 documentation was published rather than put up for free on the website.

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  4. Re:They should be free by thrillseeker · · Score: 5, Funny

    Q.E.D.

  5. Re:Old fashioned way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    My daughter has actually made money on her textbooks the last couple years. She buys them used on half.com and then sells them back to the university bookstore for more than she paid.

  6. Re:Many a foolish man has crossed Houghton Mifflin by JustKidding · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'd really hate that, because I like to read the book myself, and I don't need somebody reading it to me. Having to write everything down distracts from trying to understand what he is saying. If you go home with a bunch of notes that you don't understand, what good is that?

  7. Re:Many a foolish man has crossed Houghton Mifflin by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Incredibly few college textbooks are in libraries, the few that are are usually 5 or more years out of date.

    Incredibly few subjects change enough in five years to render textbooks out of date.

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  8. Re:Many a foolish man has crossed Houghton Mifflin by finiteSet · · Score: 5, Insightful

    why do we need 20 diffrent math books? why not have one in which allthe prof's can contribute to?

    Not all variety in textbooks on the same subject is accounted for by differences in what material is left out; often authors disagree on how best to present the same core concepts. This variety is good: professors can find the best match to his or her course, and students/researchers can seek out books that resonate with their learning styles. One massive, exhaustive textbook would be a valuable resource for its completeness, but potentially a nightmare to learn from. The problem would only be exacerbated if the authors did not conform to a single standard for notation and terminology, which in itself is asking a lot.

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