Guitar Hero World Tour Music Creation Demonstration

1Up has a video of a detailed demonstration of Guitar Hero: World Tour's music creation system from GamesCon 2008. Activision shows off its robust note-recording system, which features dozens of different tones and sounds as well as the ability to play full musical scales. Tilting the guitar up and down can change octaves (or loudness for the drum machine). Users will also be able to record loops and tweak them for inclusion in full songs, which can accommodate all four players. The songs can then be uploaded and shared with the community.

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i see companies like activision

[extirpater]

their favorite song abba - money money money

Slashvertisements

[Nymz]

In the last 24 hours, these 3 stories, that are more like press releases as they have no credited submitter, have appeared. Can anyone explain?

Baseball Coverage Coming To Consoles
Rock the Vote Partners With Xbox Live
Guitar Hero World Tour Music Creation Demonstration

Re:Slashvertisements

[iminplaya]

Slashvertisements?

I like the term used in firehose(though I hate firehose almost as much as idle): binspam. And there's probably lots of sock puppets marking it up. It seems a lot of it is making the front page. The editors should know better.

Re:Slashvertisements

[Spazntwich]

The editors should know better.

You must be knew here.

Re:Slashvertisements

[Anonymous Coward]

You must be knew here.

You must be new to the English language.

The Next Step

[flyneye]

With the controllers getting more complex,the next natural step is fretted,stringed activation.Might as well just get a real guitar.The difference is:
Controller,you do the instrumental karaoke thing,some people appreciate it,you go home with the admiration of a small clique.Limited to songs you purchase.Plastic junk you eventually garage sale.
Guitar,you actually milk out the sounds in your head,most people appreciate it,you go home with that blond in the front row.Not limited to songs included in game modules.Guitar has some resale value to enable better model in the future.

         

Re:The Next Step

[DragonTHC]

blah blah whine whine.

I'm a classically and jazz trained musician. I read and write music.

I'm still buying GHWT cause I want to play it. It's gonna be a fun game.

stop whining about games and get out of your mom's basement.

Re:The Next Step

[hezekiah957]

Yeah yeah yeah, Guitar Hero is for posers. We get it.

Re:The Next Step

[Anonymous Coward]

With the controllers getting more complex,the next natural step is fretted,stringed activation.Might as well just get a real guitar.The difference is:
Controller,you do the instrumental karaoke thing,some people appreciate it,you go home with the admiration of a small clique.Limited to songs you purchase.Plastic junk you eventually garage sale.
Guitar,you actually milk out the sounds in your head,most people appreciate it,you go home with that blond in the front row.Not limited to songs included in game modules.Guitar has some resale value to enable better model in the future.

       

With the conversations getting more complex,the next natural step is voice chat.Might as well just talk to a person in real life.The difference is:
Slashdot,you do the post thing,some people appreciate it,you go home with the admiration of a small clique.Limited to topics the admins choose.Mod points that don't go anywhere.
Real life conversation,you actually milk out the ideas in your head,most people appreciate it,you go home with that blond at the coffeeshop.Not limited to topics posted by the admins.Skills developed enable better conversation in the future.

Also, screw you, they aren't mutually exclusive.

Re:The Next Step

[morari]

http://www.guitarrising.com/

Re:The Next Step

[HalAtWork]

First, use two spaces after periods.

With the controllers getting more complex,the next natural step is fretted,stringed activation.Might as well just get a real guitar.

Or one with a MIDI controller that is perfect for use with games... what's wrong with educational value in entertainment? If more people find a fun way to learn instruments, that's great.

The difference is:
Controller,you do the instrumental karaoke thing,some people appreciate it,you go home with the admiration of a small clique.Limited to songs you purchase.

It's a pretty small selling game. But you don't play to win admiration, you do it for entertainment value. There are limited songs now but the genre is only catching on to the mainstream. New singles are showing up on Guitar Hero & Rock Band and can be used for successful promotion and sales of music, and there is clearly demand. Sure you can't play everything but the fact that this is possible now is enough of a novelty.

Plastic junk you eventually garage sale.

I am never selling my games...

Guitar,you actually milk out the sounds in your head,most people appreciate it,you go home with that blond in the front row.Not limited to songs included in game modules.Guitar has some resale value to enable better model in the future.

Sounds like your argument is Composer vs Gamer, not Guitar Hero vs Guitar. But even then, one is a career and the other is stuff you do to relax or as a hobby. What exactly are you trying to say here?

Re:The Next Step

[AkaKaryuu]

I've been playing RockBand since it came out. Got pretty good on the drums and enjoy the game... But I just bought a drumset last weekend, and I gotta tell you I'm much happier with that. There's nothing like the creativity you get to release... Games let you keep rhythem... but not much else.

Re:The Next Step

[morari]

First, use quote tags.

Re:The Next Step

[TheSpoom]

You beat me to it. I really, really want to play that game (and learn to play guitar).

Re:The Next Step

[JeanCroix]

You're right. I feel the same way about driving games. Instead of buying Gran Turismo XXXIV or whatever the game-du-jour is, why don't these people go buy an actual performance car, or at least soup up their own? The differences, as you point out:
Controller: you do the button-pushing/joystick-waggling thing; some people appreciate it; you go home with the admiration of a small clique. Plastic junk you eventually garage sale.
Performance car: you actually learn how to fix, maintain and upgrade; more people appreciate it; you go home with the hot brunette from the car show. Not limited to tracks/cities included in games. Performance car has way better resale value, and if you pick the right one, reselling it on eBay might even subsidize your retirement.

(Or is your point only valid for music games..?)

Re:The Next Step

[flyneye]

What are anon cow and why we keep getting post from it?

Re:The Next Step

[flyneye]

Now that is dead brilliant!
If only console games companies were advanced enough to think of that.I wish it all the best.

Re:The Next Step

[flyneye]

"(Or is your point only valid for music games..?)"

          Absolutely not,you've hit the nail on the head.As I said before,you only get out of life what you put into it.You can go to McD...s or the steak house.

Re:The Next Step

[JeanCroix]

Heh. Well, good on you for being reasonable about it. I guess I just chose your post because I get irritated by so much criticism of Guitar Hero/Rock Band type games by those who say people should go learn to play a real guitar instead of just playing games, whereas most other game genres (driving, shooters, sports, etc.) seem to get a free pass on it.

For the record, I'm a musician AND I play Guitar Hero; I own a muscle car and a rat rod AND I play Grand Theft Auto; I have a gun collection AND I play Medal of Honor. Because doing real things is fun, and playing games about it is fun too.

/Repented, quit my job, slacked off, and sent $20 to the PO Box in Dallas in 1994; glad the world didn't end on X-Day.

Re:The Next Step

[Anonymous Coward]

This is ridiculous, would you make the same analogy about playing GTA?

Get over yourself. I don't need or want a blond who would go home with some hack who learned to play guitar. I don't want to become a musician, I was in band in high school, that was enough.

Re:The Next Step

[Sta7ic]

Rock Band and Guitar Hero are pretty amusing for whetting musical interest. The local little music store has apparently had problems keeping guitars in stock, starting right around when the fuel prices started to jump in the US. It's much more fun to have an acoustic dread that I can take places, like my friend's birthday party.

There's also some agreement that we need to get someone a drum kit after watching her play full tilt on the Rock Band drums on her first time trying it. She has a little tribal drum, admittedly, but it'd be fun to watch her cut loose with a real kit.

You can't swing that with the plastic toys. They're fun, but it's a game, and you're penalized for being creative, while rewarded for doing what the game tells you to. Real instruments give you much-needed freedom to experiment or cut loose.

Re:The Next Step

[jonaskoelker]

With the controllers getting more complex,the next natural step is fretted, stringed activation. Might as well just get a real guitar. The difference is:

Controller: you do the instrumental karaoke thing, some people appreciate it, you go home with the admiration of a small clique. Limited to songs you purchase. Plastic junk you eventually garage sale.

Guitar: you actually milk out the sounds in your head, most people appreciate it, you go home with that blond in the front row. Not limited to songs included in game modules. Guitar has some resale value to enable better model in the future.

(I've quoted the parent in its entirity, inserting whitespace and fixing minor punctuation issues).

My background, so that you can put what I'm saying into perspective: I have three guitars [Stratocaster, Telecoustic, Flying V], I've taken guitar lessons through five years about ten years ago; I've played, I've been on a stage, I've been in a recording studio and had one of my songs recorded; I wouldn't want to give up music. I don't play much these days, but when I play Gerudo Valley (LoZ: OoT) or Ken Stage (SF2) to myself I like what I hear.

I've played GH:Aerosmith at my local video game store, and a different version at one other occasion. I've ordered GH3 for my wii, and I expect it to be worth the monies.

You do have a point, and here's what I think it is when stated in neutral terms: real guitars and GH guitars give you different things. I agree with that, whole-heartedly. You then go on to add your personal value judgments on the two different things through claims about what they will give you.

I don't believe all the claims. I also don't believe your list is complete. I never went home with the blond in the front row, for one, but that's because I also read slashdot ;) Staying in the "I read slashdot" ballpark: I have a very well-informed opinion based on the article which I didn't read, and it is that with GH you are not (contrary to your claim) limited to the songs you buy---you can create your own; or did I miss a badtitle?

You fail to mention that guitars cost significantly more than GH games. True, there's resale value, but my experience is that you become emotionally attached to guitars and don't want to sell them; also, buying and reselling a guitar is going to cost your more than a GH game. Second of all, note how I said I learned to play the guitar by taking lessons? It's not easy; it takes time and effort before you sound just as good as the game does when you play it well. It takes even more time until you're writing your own music.

Also, GH is a fun kind of musical-ish competition (if you've played singstar you know what I'm talking about, although GH is quite a bit more light on the musical skill thing), which is fun, and social interaction; either playing with friends, or chatting with the other customers in the video game store. True, playing in a band does that as well, but it takes more than one person with comparable skill level and musical taste.

Your post is presenting a false dichotomy between enjoying GH and enjoying the real deal. One can enjoy both, and enjoy both for exactly what they are; I love my guitars, I love composing, soon I'll be auditioning for a local band that needs another guitar player. I love the music. I'm also an avid gamer, since my first computer which was an Amiga 500 (and, although chess is a board game, games is what got me into programming, which I'll probably do professionally). I predict that I'll enjoy playing GH very much, that it'll be great fun, and that I'll beat the crap out of my non-guitar-playing friends ;) and I'll love it for what it is: a great game [and emphatically *not*: a replacement for the real thing].

Also, my stage experience says to go for the goth chick with black hair and a nose ring. You know, the one with the perky breasts who looks at you with this curiously intense stare. She'll insist on letting her girlfriends take part in the fun too. Bet you didn't know that, huh? ;)

Re:The Next Step

[Anonymous Coward]

It's really hard to read the post when everything looks like an email address... Dude it's a game, it will always be fun. I think you're looking for it to compete with the actual profession of playing an instrument well for an orchestra or a band or something. The game is just a hobby for fun. Most games simulate real-world stuff but without the consequences and detail.