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Fuel-Cell Car Racing Series Aims To Spur Green Motoring

Anonymous Cow writes "The world's first international fuel-cell powered motor racing series kicked off in Rotterdam over the weekend. The organisers hope that 'Formula Zero,' like Formula 1, can become a forum for competing technology as much as anything else, helping green consumer cars to become better."

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  1. Re:Not pompous enough by jamesh · · Score: 3, Insightful

    People aren't going to take green technology seriously until it wins in rally or 24 hour le mans or somethign similarly awesome to win.

    or until they actually drive a electric sports car. I think they'll change their minds then :)

  2. Re:Definitely would help image by adpsimpson · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm not sure the ipod will ever catch on. No wireless, less storage than a nomad - lame.

    While I'm at it, I'm sure that man will never fly. That's the realm of angels and birds.

    Oh, hold on, you mean those bicycle mechanics were actually on to something?

    It's odd that on a place like Slashdot, it's seen as cool to by cynical, and cynical is seen as non-critically putting down anything that hasn't been out and about for 5+ years. Who would have thought 10 years ago that Formula 1 would be leading the way in development of mechanical (flywheel) hybrid powertrain systems?

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  3. Parent has a point: Troll or not. by BitterOldGUy · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Excuse me, but every time I see any sort of hydrogen powered (burning it or using it for some sort of chemical reactions) car, the source of hydrogen starts off with fossil fuels or using other forms of energy to extract hydrogen from water. We should be careful that we're not causing more pollution in one area just to lessen some in another area - maybe having a net increase in greenhouse gases.

    We all know the BS about ethanol and how it takes more energy (all oil) to just to grow the corn than you get from burning it and that doesn't even include the distillation and shipping costs!

  4. Re:Definitely would help image by adpsimpson · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Whoa, troll? Didn't see that one coming! It was meant to be a serious point - uncritically destroying every new technology is no better than hand waving beliefs in "technology will solve all our problems."

    The first flight was hardly in a useful plane, yet 15 years of development later, we had large, multi passenger transport planes. Just a point.

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  5. Re:Definitely would help image by jonnythan · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Did I say that fuel cell was a dead technology that won't go anywhere?

    No. Quite the contrary - I think it is a very promising technology that has great potential.

    However, the GP I was replying to said that maybe this will help the "image" of alternatively-fueled vehicles. And frankly, a bunch of tiny go-karts doesn't have much hope of beefing-up the wimpy image of the Insight, Prius, etc.

  6. Re:Definitely would help image by jacquesm · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think you do not deserve your 'insightful' one bit. Development platforms for a new technology do not have to be related in shape or function to the end product.

    The length of the road on which they function has nothing to do with the length that they could be going to on real roads.

    These are just abstractions, and in fact simplify the development process considerably. Think about how much more costly this would be if all these experimental vehicles had to conform to regular road standards and had to take a full complement of passengers.

  7. Re:Definitely would help image by polar+red · · Score: 4, Insightful

    cars that look like the prius don't help this.
    So if people can see electric cars with real performance that would even surpass the petrol counterpart it should make people more likely to change.

    Just a tought, but maybe the major car makers WANT this? It seems to me that they produce ugly,slow cars that won't appeal to the masses with a reason. After all, electric cars need much, MUCH less maintenance and spare parts than a petrol car ... Lets hope the smaller manufacturers see the gap in the market.

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  8. Re:just wondering..at what point... by fprintf · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You answered your own question from a point of ignorance. You can't understand why USians are crying about petrol at $5 per US gallon because I don't think you understand what it is like to live here. #1, most of the US population does not live within metropolitan areas well served by public transportation. Most of us *can't* put the car in the garage because it is easier or quicker on the train. The trains don't exist. Moving from the suburbs/country to the city is not easy. It is much easier to whine about the cost of fuel.

    If you only need a car that can accelerate from 0 - 90 in a reasonable time (why 90? Don't you know that traveling at a slower speed is more fuel efficient? How wasteful of you!) then I propose that we need no more new cars. Heck, even a VW Golf from 1978 had that type of performance and got 35 miles per gallon.

    Anyway, you don't need transportation. But there are plenty of people who do, or at least think they do. Infrastructure doesn't spring up overnight, and given the distances in this country, it is unlike to be a 100% solution when it gets here, but if fuel prices continue to rise I think there will be more public transporation.

    BTW, I started taking the bus to work a few months ago. I drive 6 miles roundtrip per day to a commuter lot, then spend 45 minutes on a bus each way. Overall my commute time is 30 minutes longer per day but infinitely more enjoyable. So I agree in concept that people would be better off finding a mass transit option, if one exists, and pushing for one where it doesn't.

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