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Scientists Discover Cows Point North

Dr Sabine Begall and colleagues from the University of Duisburg-Essen have discovered that cows tend to point north. The researchers studied deer in the Czech Republic and looked at thousands of images of cattle on Google Earth. The animals tended to face north when eating or resting. "We conclude that the magnetic field is the only common and most likely factor responsible for the observed alignment," the scientists wrote in an article. I guess cows will become the must-have item for long-distance hikers now. Having an edible compass would come in handy if you get lost.

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  1. You too can be an armchair scientist. by suso · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Is it possible? Yes. But I wonder how many factors they really looked into before coming to this conclusion. What about how cows perceive things like the locations of houses, barns and roads. Are a lot of farms on north/south roads or are fields on the south side of the farm so the cows are facing towards the barn or house? I don't know, but from reading the article, it doesn't sound like they looked into much other than making conclusions from Google Earth. What about the fact that aeriel photography is done during certain times of the day or during certain seasons. Surely those have an effect on cows. Poor science in my opinion. And the sad thing is that an article like this only causes people to start propogating facts that might be wrong. Not that what direction cows face is a big deal, but its common enough that it only propogates stupidity.

    And why use Google Earth? Indiana (I know cows are sacred in India) seems like a prime candidate for studying cows from space. In 2005 Indiana University released a complete set of aerial photos of the whole state that had as high as 6" per pixel resolution. Which is better than Google Earth.

    Besides that, how many good research scientists are going to promote their work by posting a link to Slashdot to an article in a newspaper.

    1. Re:You too can be an armchair scientist. by baldass_newbie · · Score: 4, Insightful

      They may just like sun on their backs and not in their eyes.
      Not everything requires 'scientific' conjecture (which is, I think, your point.)

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    2. Re:You too can be an armchair scientist. by SoCalChris · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I live in Montana, and there's plenty of cattle up here.

      There was an article in the paper last winter about ranchers having to roam their pastures at night looking for cattle giving birth (They give birth in the middle of winter). The calves would immediately need to be taken to a barn, otherwise they would quickly freeze in the -20 to -30 temperatures we frequently get during winter nights.

      Adult cows are very hardy though, and survive just fine in extreme cold, although they do tend to huddle together to block the wind and conserve each others heat.

    3. Re:You too can be an armchair scientist. by Thelasko · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I believe a cow's eyes are on the sides of their head. Not at the front of their head, like ours. Therefore, the sun would be in their right eye in the morning, and the left eye in the afternoon.

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    4. Re:You too can be an armchair scientist. by G-forze · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Or maybe satellites take images at noon when the lighting is best because the sun happens to be at its highest (and in the south)?

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    5. Re:You too can be an armchair scientist. by j00r0m4nc3r · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Whoosh! I'm pretty sure that was the entire crux of his one sentence, which you expanded into three paragraphs.

    6. Re:You too can be an armchair scientist. by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      How about learned patterns of sunlight corresponding to landmarks? Or did they also try blinding the cows?

      Or sealing them inside a large white dome with no discernible edges so that it was all white to infinity?

      And did they ask for guns? lots of guns?

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    7. Re:You too can be an armchair scientist. by Free+the+Cowards · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The alternative to causation is not only reverse causation. Correlation could be due to causation in either direction, but also due to a shared cause or even total coincidence.

      For example, the building I live in is lined up north/south. Is this due to the Earth's magnetic field? No, it's because it's built on a north/south road.

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    8. Re:You too can be an armchair scientist. by Thelasko · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Be careful how you read this.

      Huge variations in the wind direction and sunlight in the areas where the beasts were found

      !=

      Huge variations in the wind direction and sunlight at the moment when the beasts were found

      The first one could mean the scientist ruled out the amount of sunlight the area gets on average. (Oslo gets less sun than Palermo)

      The second one means they took the pictures at various times in the day.

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    9. Re:You too can be an armchair scientist. by Sparky+McGruff · · Score: 3, Insightful

      And you forgot the part where the lady got a law passed demanding the teaching of "cow theory" and "turtle theory" in science classes.

  2. Subject Requires More Study IMO by Nymz · · Score: 3, Insightful

    While cows may actually have some ability to sense magnetic fields, like some other creatures can for navigation or migratory purposes, why would they do so for just standing around? I'm still inclined to believe that their north/south inclination is related to the east/west inclination of the sun.

    1. Re:Subject Requires More Study IMO by Nymz · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm not sure this subject warrants any study at all...

      Funny, but you never know, a lot of discovers come from looking into non-obvious places.

  3. Re:I propose a new Game Show by Paradise+Pete · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You're right. People should never think critically and try to find other, simpler explanations for a supposed phenomenon, not as long as it comes from a scientist, of course.

    Critical thinking is good, of course, but what usually happens here is that people think for about ten seconds, come up with something obvious, and just assume that the researchers who've been working on for months and sometimes years somehow never thought of it. Like this guy, for one example.

  4. Long History of Existence by Chuckstar · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Humans have been observing cows for millenia. Don't you think someone would have noticed this by now? Its not like cowherds have a lot of other things on their mind when they are minding the herd.

  5. Re:How about a simpler explanation? by King_TJ · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I was thinking this might call for a Mythbusters episode on Discovery Channel involving a huge electromagnetic field set up in different places in the farmer's field?

  6. Armchair reviewer, not scientist by philspear · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The linked article is not the actual journal article, so they don't explain what they did or detail their results.

    If you look at a summary of a paper you're not an expert in and come up quickly with some potential problems, it's likely that someone who works on this for months if not years is going to have considered that at some point. The fact that it's not in the summary does not mean they didn't look at it and you shouldn't assume they're bad researchers for not making sure this summary (which someone else wrote) had all the technical details.

    For example, the external factors like houses and barns, that seems pretty obvious. They would be unearthly stupid to not factor that in. There are ways in which you could factor that in too. If you find the article and they just look at cows removed from all else and find this bias, you're right, that could be from numerous other effects, not the least of which is HUMAN tendancy to north/south.

    The conclusion you should get is "poor summary," not poor science. You're the one jumping to unsafe conclusions.

    Another issue: how many good scientists promote their work by posting a link to an article? I don't know, are you sure they did or is this "samzenpus" writing this without any input from the researchers?