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BBC Profiles Extradited Cracker Gary McKinnon

An anonymous reader writes "The BBC has published a very good profile of Gary McKinnon. It discusses his motives and methods as well as raising the question as to whether he is a malicious 'hacker' or whether he was simply obsessed with finding info about UFOs and should be praised for finding security faults in what should be extremely secure systems. This should provided stimulus for some interesting discussion on Slashdot especially between us Brits and our American friends following the confirmation of his extradition to the USA."

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  1. BBC Confirms It by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The UK, as a seperate entity from the US, no longer exists.

    If US laws can be enforced on British soil, but not vice-versa, then the UK is a defacto part of the US. But here's the clinching shit in your mouth: with no representation. What's the point of a government, if the laws they pass mean nothing?

    1. Re:BBC Confirms It by meringuoid · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Well, that's obviously way off base because I'm sure the extradition treaty goes both ways

      You would think so, wouldn't you? Apparently American citizens have something called 'rights', which means they cannot be extradited without the evidence against them being put before an American court. So Congress have not ratified the treaty. It only goes one way: we bend over, and get no reach-around.

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  2. A disgrace by iworm · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Gary McKinnon was foolish. Yet he now faces up to 70 years in jail.

    What angers me even more than the absurd penalties threatened by the US courts? The supine, wimpering acquiesence of the UK governmnt who will extradite one of its own citizens without evidence being required, yet demands no such reciprocal agreement with the US.

    Mr McKinnon should burn his British passport and go away from the UK to some country which still cares for its citizens.

  3. Re:Should he be praised by aproposofwhat · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There is also a huge difference between the intent and the application of the extradition treaty between the UK and the US - AFAIK the US still hasn't ratified that treaty, so it's fine for US courts to extradite British citizens, but not vice-versa.

    The intent of the extradition treaty was to deal with serious organised crime and terrorism cases.

    McKinnon comes under neither heading, nor did the NatWest employees extradited for shenanigans over Enron.

    Britain should drop this treaty immediately, and refuse any extradition request other than for terrorist crimes.

    Please, America, take Abu Hamza and his friends, but a guy that has Aspergers, believes in UFOs?

    He's our eccentric, so if he's due a trial we'll do it here.

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  4. Re:Should he be praised by FinchWorld · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Britain should drop this treaty immediately, and refuse any extradition request other than for terrorist crimes.

    Even at that, they'd just mention he "hacked" military computers and that is terrorism. Nearly everything is these days.

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  5. Re:Should he be praised by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Especially terrorists should not be extradited to the US, because the US has a record of grave human rights violations against suspected terrorists and has been convicted of torturing prisoners.

  6. Too large to download? by omuls+are+tasty · · Score: 5, Insightful

    From TFA:

    As for his quest to find evidence of a UFO cover-up, Mr McKinnon has said that he found some circumstantial evidence online to back his claims, including what he said are photos with what he speculated were alien spacecraft airbrushed out of the picture. He said the photos in question were too large to download to his own computer.

    So he somehow managed to SEE the photos (without any alien spacecraft on them, BTW), but wasn't able to download them? Am I the only one to whom this doesn't make sense?

  7. Re:Crackers, Hackers, and Slackers by Tim+C · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How about we give it up already and just forego the use of the term hacker meaning good computer nerd?

    I've been arguing that for years, especially as in my experience in the UK, a hack most certainly is not a clever piece of code; the image presented is of someone making a mess of it, much like hacking through the undergrowth with a machete.

    Besides which, you should attempt to target your language at the intended audience, and on a site like BBC News that most certainly is not the 5% of the population who know about the other use of the word.

  8. Re:Should he be praised by Tim+C · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Not exactly; as I understand it, they're saying that if he pleads guilty as part of a plea bargain they'll go easier on him. If he contests it, they'll throw the book at him.

    I've never understood that aspect of the US criminal justice system; it smacks somewhat of deliberate intimidation - "make it easy on yourself, confess - or else...".