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China Practically Unreachable By Western SMS?

Ainsy writes "A friend of mine recently began a placement as an English pronunciation teacher in China. She has picked up a pay-as-you go sim for use over there, only to discover that China seems to have been almost completely overlooked by international communications agreements, specifically from the UK. A bit of snooping tells me that Vodafone is the only network from which it is possible to send SMS to a Chinese registered mobile phone. SMS in China is upscaling massively, and is incredibly cheap currently — even 'premium' SMS info services cost 1 Yuan (that's just £0.081 GBP). I'm curious why such a large section of the world market is cut off from the west's wireless communication networks especially with the recent Olympics putting the spotlight on the nation in general. China mobile is the world's largest carrier ranked by subscriber base (415 million) and isn't even the only carrier to operate in China). There are a few websites around from which SMS can be sent to China for a fee but this is of only limited use when on the move. Can anyone tell me why this situation has come about and when we can expect this sort of service to be enabled?"

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  1. Is this for real? by shidarin'ou · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Can anyone tell me why this situation has come about and when we can expect this sort of service to be enabled?"

    Here's an answer to your second question: NEVER

    Here's an answer to your first question: Why the hell would the people's republic of china suddenly want to let unfiltered, uncensored text messages into the country while it keeps an iron fist on what their citizens see and hear even over the internet?

    Perhaps a more pragmatic answer would be that China will allow text messages to enter into the country when it's able to monitor and censor every text message, and connect a sender to a recipient with their name and current location (to allow for quick and easy arrests), and know who to detain when they enter the country.

    1. Re:Is this for real? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Why the hell would the people's republic of china suddenly want to let unfiltered, uncensored text messages into the country while it keeps an iron fist on what their citizens see and hear even over the internet?

      This is exactly what I thought. Blaming "the rest of the world" is idiotic. Sending SMSes to China requires a cross-connect agreement, which means both sides have to agree to connect. Why does the author think it's nothing to do with the Chinese themselves?

    2. Re:Is this for real? by Threni · · Score: 5, Insightful

      > Here's an answer to your first question: Why the hell would the people's republic of china suddenly want to let unfiltered, uncensored text
      > messages into the country while it keeps an iron fist on what their citizens see and hear even over the internet?

      There can't be an easier to control method of communication than SMS. You need a carrier in your country which delivers the messages to phones, which will be forced to allow monitoring; the messages are 160 characters each and text-only; the phone they're being sent to can be trivially geographically located etc. If you're going to keep a close eye on your subjects, you're going to watch to encourage SMS over any other system.

      It's exactly like in the UK/US, where all companies involved in communication (phone, parcels/mail, tv, radio) are controlled completely by their governments - there's no way of sending information without the authorities knowing who sent it to who. Encryption is something of a false hope, given that countries will either prohibit it or, slightly more sensibly, pass laws empowering courts to punish subjects for not revealing their passwords and/or decrypt the messages on demand.

    3. Re:Is this for real? by CountBrass · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "There can't be an easier to control method of communication than SMS." of course there is, don't allow it at all.

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  2. Conspiracy by maxume · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I do believe it is a conspiracy by telecom companies not to spend money on something that they don't anticipate making a profit from.

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  3. anonymous mail is possible by davidwr · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's exactly like in the UK/US, where all companies involved in communication (phone, parcels/mail, tv, radio)

    In the US it is legal to send mail up to 13 ounces without a return address. It is legal to send mail over 13 ounces without a return address but you have to hand-deliver it to a post office box and your face will typically be caught on camera. That's to prevent bombs and the like, not contraband information.

    In the USA, it's also legal to use a pay phone or a prepaid phone call without revealing your identity. You will reveal your location, so make sure you call from a relatively populated place that is devoid of cameras.

    For some, anonymity is a valuable commodity: Some people are willing to pay $10-$20 for a single phone conversation in exchange for anonymity - that's the approximate cost of a cheap prepaid cell phone with 10-20 minutes of talk time.

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  4. What's more surprising? by exp(pi*sqrt(163)) · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That one person who has trouble sending SMS to China thinks that their story is newsworthy, or that the /. editors accepted it?

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  5. Re:Shenanigans! by francium+de+neobie · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If you go to Finland are you forced to send messages only in Finnish? No?

    If you go to Poland are you forced to send messages only in Polish? No?

    Same for China.

  6. OMFG c3nz0rZ! by 6Yankee · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Exactly. I have two friends in the US. One, I can send SMS to her but she can't send back. The other, we can send SMS both ways but MMS only works from her to me - on my old phone with a different network, MMS also worked both ways. Now, is it the UK or the US that has this repressive Great Firewall? I forget. I'm quite sure that this has more to do with differing roaming agreements between operators than with some sinister tinfoil-hat plot to crush teh t3xtz0rz. Some people on here really need to grow up. The OP would do better to ask their mobile operator than Slashdot.