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AT&T Slaps Family With a $19,370 Cell Phone Bill

theodp writes "Mama, don't let your babies send e-mail and photos from Vancouver. A Portland family racked up nearly $20,000 in charges on their AT&T bill after their son headed north to Vancouver and used a laptop with an AirCard twenty-one times to send photos and e-mails back home. The family said they wished they would have received some kind of warning before receiving their chock-full-of-international-fees 200-page bill in the mail for $19,370. Guess they didn't read the fine print in that 'Stay connected whether you are traveling across town, the US, or the world' AT&T AirCard pitch. Hey, at least it wasn't $85,000."

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  1. Disgusted by cerberusss · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Some people here will undoubtedly react in this topic, saying that this family "brought it onto themselves" or "should have read this or that".

    I'm saying I'm disgusted, utterly disgusted how these companies treat their customers. Why isn't there a procedure in place that calls the customer upon reaching some limit like $500 or $1000 and warns them?

    Why not? I'll tell you why. Because this is how the world works. But I'm still disgusted.

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    1. Re:Disgusted by photomonkey · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'd warn a lot earlier. Like when you're 50% over your plan.

      Contract or not, this isn't a business game, it's a game of gotcha with customers.

      Lure people in with words like "unlimited," "free," "included" and then trickily word an overly verbose contract to make exceptions for everything.

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  2. Perhaps some confusion about the brand Aircard by weston · · Score: 5, Informative

    The branding "Aircard" is close enough to "Airport" some readers may assume it refers to Apple equipment instead of stuff manufactured by Sierra Wireless.

  3. Re:Oh Noes! by Tubal-Cain · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I blame the fine print. They are so verbose that you could be agreeing to anything.

  4. Re:Apple? by SuperKendoll · · Score: 5, Funny

    Apple wouldn't let this happen with the iPhone. First of all, the superior ergonomic design and technological enhancements present in the iPhone make it practically impossible for iPhone users to experience negative situations. Secondly, if this somehow was possible, I'm confident Steve Jobs would step in and either set AT&T straight or foot the bill himself.

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  5. Re:Oh Noes! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    You _are_agreeing to anything - and everything. One of the contract terms in almost all contracts is that they can change the terms. Granted, they must notify you and they aren't allowed to charge ETFs if you cancel because of it. But you are not allowed to 'lock-in' services just because they 'lock-in' two years of service. In short, you can't hold them to their own contract so long as they 'notify' you.

  6. Re:AT&T's getting more clueful. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    The iPhone, at least, has a "Disable Data Roaming" option... of course, they probably had that clue shoved down their throats by Apple. :)

    Ummm, no. The first iphone had international data roaming turned on by default. And since the iphone never really turns off, many suckers ran up large bills when traveling internationally since the iphone doesn't have push email and checks every 5 minutes or so, which results in a large data bill even if you don't send or receive a single email.

    The second iphone has international data roaming disabled by default.

  7. Re:All too common tale by jabithew · · Score: 5, Informative

    In the European Union, thanks to Commission intervention, mobile firms *have* to text you to inform you of rates whenever you arrive in a new state.

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  8. Re:Oh Noes! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What planet are are you from? One where it really is OK to charge 6 months wages to send email using a system in use by millions of people.

    Its a sign the markets aren't competitive, the corporations immoral and some individuals so brainwashed that they blame the victim.

  9. unconscionable contracts are unenforceable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Isn't there a common law rule about contracts that "unconscionable" clauses are not enforceable? There is no way a sane person would agree to purchase services at these prices or anticipate this level of charges. It's like ordering "a bottle of red" at The Olive Garden and getting a rare 1940 barolo priced at $20,000.

  10. Re:Former ATT Employee, no sympathy by stephencrane · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That's nonsense. It's not disabled by default on all ATT phones. In this case, we're talking about a data card, but it's the same point. You don't have to call to turn it on. I've seen two instances recently where people got hit for 7000 and 9000 bills, with no change in usage behavior. Some folk troubled inside can sneer at these people and justify their disdain behind the fact that an 26-page agreement lists roaming data charges in fine print. These same agreements also say you've signed away half your legal rights because ATT would find them inconvenient in certain situations. Fuck that as a justification. There are tons of cellular service providers that have much better warning systems, like a text or pop-up with fee information, or tools you can use, like self-setting a limit on how much costs you can incur before service temporarily disables. There's no reason why people in this day and age shouldn't expect more. Casual data use goes up every year as files and options take up space, yet somehow it always seems that those with few competitors seem to continually put off revising their rates for networks long paid for. This was Canada in 2008, not Sierra Leone in 1998. The most galling thing of it all is the proof right in what puto is saying. We all know that all that stands between a $20,000 bill and a $100 bill is a fucking SKU. They design the circumstances to encourage these mistakes, or they just don't care enough about their customers to deploy solutions already on other providers' shelves.

  11. Real responsibility is more than watch-out-for-#1 by weston · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yes, because everyone needs to be treated like a two year-old. No, we can't expect people to act like adults and be responsible for their own actions.

    Real grown-up responsibility has more than a watch-out-for-yourself component. There's both an individual and a social component.

    And a reasonably convincing case to be made that among others, most cell carriers don't take enough responsibility in helping people signing contracts understand the whole thing. Or that a reasonable person would find it highly surprising there are corners of the covered terms of service which if you wander into can subject you to fees 2-3 orders of magnitude larger than your conventional bill.

    Think about it this way: when the people in question got the data service, do you really think they *never* asked what the service cost? It's highly unlikely. What is highly likely is that they asked, got the standard answer about the most common usage, and were simply not informed about the additional usage fees. They took an incomplete answer as a complete one.

    You can argue that the contract is a complete answer, but here we have a problem: contracts are not intended to be effective vehicles for communicating terms of agreement to consumers, they're designed to be effective vehicles for specifying terms to the legal machinery. If you want to argue that the contract is the answer, you may as well argue the source code of a piece of software serves as a FAQ or Manual.

  12. Re:Read Contracts & Limits aren't carriers wan by mabhatter654 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I thought cell phones ran credit checks... don't customers have a credit limit like a credit card would have? Why are the telcos allowing such huge overages over what plan you are credit approved for? They know your credit score and reasonable limit,why are they not following that on these cell plans?

    This is like the old-school days when mechanics would have you sign to "fix" your car, then replace the parts with 10x what they costed and huge labor costs then not let you have your car back... in response we passed law saying they had to tell you charges BEFORE work started and return the used parts. Expecting telcos to honor the credit checks they perform should be expected as ethical behavior.

  13. Re:Oh Noes! by spire3661 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It does NOT cost $20,000 to send a few megabytes of data on a network in use by millions. No telecomm bill for a single, consumer grade line should be allowed to be billed at that rate.

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  14. Re:Apple? by Brickwall · · Score: 5, Funny
    Do you expect Bill Gates to refund your money every time your identity is stolen via some Internet Explorer security hole?

    No, I expect him to wiggle his butt.

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  15. Re:Apple? by zeptobyte · · Score: 5, Funny

    How do you expect Steve Jobs to pay an $85k bill? His salary's only a dollar a year!