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Intel's First SSD Blows Doors Off Competition

theraindog writes "Intel is entering the storage market with an ambitious X25-M solid-state drive capable of 250MB/s sustained reads and 70MB/s writes. The drive is so fast that it employs Native Command Queuing (originally designed to hide mechanical hard drive latency) to compensate for latency the SSD encounters in host systems. But how fast is the drive in the real world? The Tech Report has an in-depth review comparing the X25-M's performance and power consumption with that of the fastest desktop, mobile, and solid-state drives on the market."

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  1. Well, a step in the right direction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A step in the right direction, but at $600 per 1000 I am gonna wait a bit longer before jumping on the SSD bandwagon.

    1. Re:Well, a step in the right direction by lgw · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Have you tried just putting 16GB of RAM in the database server? Nearly 16GB of cache for a 40GB database should work pretty well.

      More geenrally, it's time to start thinking about DB servers that satisfy all reads from memory. It won't be long before the RAM available in a commodity sever is larger than many shops' database. Your caching model would want to be very different if you know you can cache everything.

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    2. Re:Well, a step in the right direction by wizzat · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Honestly, I think we're long past the time when we can even consider satisfying all reads from memory. Data volume is growing these days - and it's growing much faster than hardware.

      Disclaimer: I work in the data warehousing industry.

    3. Re:Well, a step in the right direction by ignavus · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It won't be long before the RAM available in a commodity sever is larger than many shops' database.

      First law of data: data always expands to fill all available storage.

      Second law: doubling your storage only buys you half the extra time you expected.

      Final law: no storage is ever enough.

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    4. Re:Well, a step in the right direction by afabbro · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Plus RAID-0 ain't all it's cracked up to be. I had a Dell XPS600 with RAID 0 and one of the drives went kaput. Guess what happens to all the other drives then ? They're useless.

      RAID-0 is exactly what it's cracked up to be. It just may not have been what you're looking for.

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    5. Re:Well, a step in the right direction by Atario · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The argument went -- if you stack all those platters together, the failure of one platter would trash the entire set! Oh noes...

      And...what? It doesn't?

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  2. It's not the speed, it's the storage by religious+freak · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is great and all, but if I had to choose, give me more SSD storage. It's got plenty of speed right now, I'll be impressed when SSDs can be an actual alternative to disks.

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    1. Re:It's not the speed, it's the storage by grasshoppa · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Or you split up your expectations.

      Honestly, how much space do you need for the OS and programs? Have an SSD for these functions, and a traditional HDD for pure space requirements. That'd be more economical too, at least in the short term.

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  3. Re:but is it fast enough by larry+bagina · · Score: 2, Insightful

    SSD doesn't have a seek delay or rotational delay.

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  4. Gonna Take a Little While Yet by segedunum · · Score: 2, Insightful

    SSDs are *very* compelling. The lack of mechanical moving parts, better seek time, better read and write rates, better random access (goodbye defragmentation?), less noise, lees heat, better power consumption and the ability for us to finally use a lot of the bandwidth of those interfaces we've had for ages - what's not to like?

    However, they're going to need to get a lot cheaper, and we're going to need to see capacities in the hundreds of gigabytes before they start to take off, but take off they will.

  5. Re:Blows doors off? I call bullshit. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    To be fair, in a web-serving or database read-only type operation it does in fact blow the doors off everything else. I have never seen IO graphs even close to that good on a single drive (SSD or not).

  6. Re:Blows doors off? I call bullshit. by Kjella · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If anyone's seen the results, it's in first place in speed but not in a "door blowing manner". It's just slightly faster than the next guy.

    Pardon me, but it is "blowing down the doors" (and the house too) in some tests, like this one. More than 3x the number of transactions of the second fastest flash drive? 7x faster than the slowest SSD drive? And the traditional HDDs are so crushed at the bottom I can't make out a ratio, but 30x or more? That is just ownage of the highest level. Yes, the write speeds aren't exactly compelling but for IO and read-heavy uses it's completely mindblowing.

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  7. Real use for SSD by jcdick1 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Western Digital blah blah, 2.5" mobile blah blah. How do they compare to the mainline Hitachi and Seagate 15k Fibre Channel? EMC's SSD offerings? I want to know what I can expect for data warehousing on Oracle RAC.

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  8. Thinking about using SSD for external backup by Layth · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Anyone know about the general longevity of these devices?
    The shelf life of a hard drive isn't incredibly impressive.

  9. Re:NAND versus Memristor? by jeffb+(2.718) · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Well, NAND has the whole "already exists" thing going for it.

  10. Re:Blows doors off? I call bullshit. by QuoteMstr · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you read the article, NCQ actually makes sense. The Intel drive actually finishes requests before the CPU gets around to asking "are you done yet?". That time between the drive finishing and the drive being told what to do next is spent idle. By supporting NCQ, the drive can convince the CPU to send large batches of commands and get rid of that latency.

    It's faster for the same reason that FTP is faster than IRC DCC. FTP just keep sending bytes as long as the other end doesn't close the connection. IRC DCC sends a packet, waits for a reply, sends the next packet, and so on.

  11. Are you sure? by RotateLeftByte · · Score: 2, Insightful

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      4 SCSI-320 Cheetah 32GB, 15K RPM drives in RAID 0.
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    What company would really want to run their DB on a Raid 0 (Striped) Disk setup? Does this not put it at risk from a single spindle failure?

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    1. Re:Are you sure? by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What company would really want to run their DB on a Raid 0 (Striped) Disk setup?

      One who replicates the data to slower backup systems.

      Does this not put it at risk from a single spindle failure?

      If those were the only spindles involved, sure.

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