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Intel's First SSD Blows Doors Off Competition

theraindog writes "Intel is entering the storage market with an ambitious X25-M solid-state drive capable of 250MB/s sustained reads and 70MB/s writes. The drive is so fast that it employs Native Command Queuing (originally designed to hide mechanical hard drive latency) to compensate for latency the SSD encounters in host systems. But how fast is the drive in the real world? The Tech Report has an in-depth review comparing the X25-M's performance and power consumption with that of the fastest desktop, mobile, and solid-state drives on the market."

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  1. Oh Yeah? by MyLongNickName · · Score: 5, Funny

    My SBDs will blow THEIR doors off.

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    1. Re:Oh Yeah? by Myrddin+Wyllt · · Score: 5, Funny

      That's not pedantry, it's rigour.

      Thank you for taking the time to correct my misuse of a sixty year old acronym in an off-hand quip replying to a fart joke. It is this level of attention to detail which makes slashdot what it is.

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  2. Re:Your SSDs by gardyloo · · Score: 5, Funny

    Those're STDs.

  3. Well, a step in the right direction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A step in the right direction, but at $600 per 1000 I am gonna wait a bit longer before jumping on the SSD bandwagon.

    1. Re:Well, a step in the right direction by orkysoft · · Score: 5, Funny

      Why? They're almost free at 60 cents each :-P

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    2. Re:Well, a step in the right direction by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 5, Interesting

      A step in the right direction, but at $600 per 1000 I am gonna wait a bit longer before jumping on the SSD bandwagon.

      I'd place an order for one this instant if I could. My company uses a relatively small database, on the order of 40GB of online data. It's running on 4 SCSI-320 Cheetah 32GB, 15K RPM drives in RAID 0. By all accounts, this single SSD would out-seek the Cheetahs, meaning that our website can serve more customers and more quickly. This is a total no-brainer for a lot of applications, even at the current price.

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    3. Re:Well, a step in the right direction by arth1 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Before rushing to buy these for database use, I would want a good look at MTBF values. Especially MTBF values for really heavy use, which may be completely different from estimated desktop use.

    4. Re:Well, a step in the right direction by lgw · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Have you tried just putting 16GB of RAM in the database server? Nearly 16GB of cache for a 40GB database should work pretty well.

      More geenrally, it's time to start thinking about DB servers that satisfy all reads from memory. It won't be long before the RAM available in a commodity sever is larger than many shops' database. Your caching model would want to be very different if you know you can cache everything.

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  4. More Details and Benchmarks Here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    This article at HotHardware, has a few additional tests that show real-world usage models as well as synthetic benchmarks: http://www.hothardware.com/Articles/Intel-X25M-80GB-SATA-Solid-State-Drive-Intel-Ups-The-Ante/

    The PCMark Vantage tests are especially impressive: http://www.hothardware.com/Articles/Intel-X25M-80GB-SATA-Solid-State-Drive-Intel-Ups-The-Ante/?page=7

  5. Damn it intel by sakdoctor · · Score: 5, Funny

    You were only supposed to blow the bloody doors off!

  6. It's not the speed, it's the storage by religious+freak · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is great and all, but if I had to choose, give me more SSD storage. It's got plenty of speed right now, I'll be impressed when SSDs can be an actual alternative to disks.

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    1. Re:It's not the speed, it's the storage by grasshoppa · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Or you split up your expectations.

      Honestly, how much space do you need for the OS and programs? Have an SSD for these functions, and a traditional HDD for pure space requirements. That'd be more economical too, at least in the short term.

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  7. Re:but is it fast enough by mooingyak · · Score: 4, Informative

    That depends entirely on what kind of RAID we're talking about...

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  8. Re:One test they never run - FRAGMENTATION by bunratty · · Score: 4, Informative

    The reason you defrag a hard disk is because the time to read a file is much less if the drive doesn't have to a random-access seek while reading the file. SSDs have fast performance whether they need to seek randomly or not, so why would there be a need to defrag an SSD disk? I would think it would only wear out the drive faster.

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  9. Re:Blows doors off? I call bullshit. by Kjella · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If anyone's seen the results, it's in first place in speed but not in a "door blowing manner". It's just slightly faster than the next guy.

    Pardon me, but it is "blowing down the doors" (and the house too) in some tests, like this one. More than 3x the number of transactions of the second fastest flash drive? 7x faster than the slowest SSD drive? And the traditional HDDs are so crushed at the bottom I can't make out a ratio, but 30x or more? That is just ownage of the highest level. Yes, the write speeds aren't exactly compelling but for IO and read-heavy uses it's completely mindblowing.

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  10. Re:but is it fast enough by GreyWolf3000 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Yeah, but the reason it speeds up mechanical hard drives is because your kernel can schedule I/O on multiple spindles, effectively parallelizing your I/O. Flash chips don't have to batch up a lot of transactions in memory and then block the process for long periods of time. Flash does not typically operate synchronous to the bus speed it's connected to, so you could get some speed benefits by accessing multiple banks in tandem, but probably not as much.

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  11. Re:One test they never run - FRAGMENTATION by chill · · Score: 5, Informative

    Yes, it would wear the disk out faster, but your original premise is flawed.

    Clustering locations would allow for accessing large chunks of data with one fetch, instead of lots of little fetches. If you're old enough, think back to the Blitter on the Amiga and moving contiguous chunks of memory as opposed fragmented blocks.

    Remember, RAM can get fragmented just as badly as a hard drive.

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  12. SSD on PS3? by nobodyman · · Score: 4, Interesting

    With more PS3 games offering an "install-to-HD" option, I wonder how SSD would affect performance. My theory is that playing a console game is a read-heavy experience, so an SSD should do quite well, right? Any rich gamers out there that have tried this out yet?

  13. Re:Blows doors off? I call bullshit. by CaptainPatent · · Score: 4, Funny

    Pardon me, but it is "blowing down the doors" (and the house too)

    Yes, the write speeds aren't exactly compelling but for IO and read-heavy uses it's completely mindblowing

    Great, first the doors, then the house and now your mind...

    I guess if there's anything we've learned is this drive really blows.

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  14. Re:where is the by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Probably right next to the dlsyexia tag.

  15. Price is over-rated by sampson7 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I get a little tired of hearing about how the price has to drop orders of magnitude before SSD is viable. Shop around a little people!

    I ended up buying a refurb Dell laptop for around $1000 with a 64 gig SSD. Was it the latest and greatest? Nope. But it was about $150/200 more than a similarly priced computer with a traditional drive (which of course, was larger). Since the only significant problems I've ever had with my two prior Dell laptops (admittedly a small sample) involved the hard drive, going with the SSD (especially when you include the "cool" factors -- both temperature and nerd-ism) was an easy decision.

    But the point is that as SSDs become more prevalent, they become available at cheaper prices. I'm sure that as the Intel drives are rolled out, the "obsolete" drives currently on the market will continue to fall in price and become available to bottom-dwelling cheap-o-s like me who may not be able to justify $1000, but can rationalize $200 without a whole lot of difficulty.

  16. Re:One test they never run - FRAGMENTATION by adisakp · · Score: 4, Informative

    You never want to defrag SSD's. It just wears out the disk.

    A good SSD has wear-leveling and write-combining techniques that keep the SSD "defragmented" automatically.

    And it doesn't matter if the FS clusters are far apart as long as they are close to the SSD's hardware cluster sizes or the SSD intelligently combines them (which is what I believe Intel is doing since they claim a write amplification of only 1.1).

    It's possible that the Samsung SLC chip stores data for the wear-leveling and write-combining operations which would remap the MLC in a non-fragmented way.

    BTW, let me give you a naive wear-leveling / write-combining algorithm. I'm sure Intel has a better one because they've invested millions of dollars of research and the one I'm about to present to you could be done by a CS101 student:

    1) You have a bit more than 80GB free for an 80GB drive (extra memory to take care of bad sectors just like a normal hard drive plus a small amount of required for the wear-leveling / writecombining)

    2) You treat most of the storage as a ring buffer that consists of blocks on two levels: the native block size and a subblock size. The remaining storage (or alternate storage which may be the Samsung SLC chip on the MLC drives) is used to journal your writes and wear-leveling.

    3) You combine all writes aligned to the subblock size into a native block and write them out to the next free native block in the ring buffer and keep a counter for the write to the block. If you run into a used block, and increment a counter (for wear levelling) and if the counter is below a certain value, you skip it to the next free block, otherwise you move the used block (which has been stagnent) to a more frequently writtento free block (which will now take less of a burden since it's had a stagnant block moved into it).

    4) Anytime you make a write, the new sectors are updated in the memory area used for journaling / wear-level / sector remapping.

    Assuming your reads can be done fairly quickly at the subblock level, it never matters if you have to "seek" for the reads and the drive won't fragment on writes because they are combined into native block sizes.

  17. Re:Blows doors off? I call bullshit. by QuoteMstr · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you read the article, NCQ actually makes sense. The Intel drive actually finishes requests before the CPU gets around to asking "are you done yet?". That time between the drive finishing and the drive being told what to do next is spent idle. By supporting NCQ, the drive can convince the CPU to send large batches of commands and get rid of that latency.

    It's faster for the same reason that FTP is faster than IRC DCC. FTP just keep sending bytes as long as the other end doesn't close the connection. IRC DCC sends a packet, waits for a reply, sends the next packet, and so on.

  18. Re:Your SSDs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Those're STDs.

    It burns when I read/write

  19. Re:where is the by sexconker · · Score: 5, Funny

    The preferred spelling is lysdexia.