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Researcher Publishes Industrial Complex Hack

snydeq writes "Security researcher Kevin Finisterre has published code that could be used to take control of computers used to manage industrial machinery, potentially giving hackers a back door into utility companies, water plants, and even oil and gas refineries. The code exploits a flaw in supervisory control and data acquisition software from Citect. The vendor has released a patch and risk arises only for systems connected directly to the Internet without firewall protection. Finisterre, however, sees the issue as indicative of a 'culture clash' between IT and process control engineers, who are reluctant to bring computers off-line for patching due to the potential havoc wreaked by downtime. 'A lot of the people who run these systems feel that they're not bound by the same rules as traditional IT,' Finisterre said. 'Their industry is not very familiar with hacking and hackers in general.'"

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  1. Re:Why ... by phatvw · · Score: 5, Informative

    Why would you have critical systems like that directly connected to the 'Net anyways?

    To reduce costs. Its cheaper for an engineer to remote-in to check on something than have them physically drag their butt to work. Fewer people are able to monitor more 24/7 systems this way.

    And its almost always cheaper to use an Internet connection than a dedicated leased line for this sort of thing.

  2. Disconnected from reality by dave562 · · Score: 5, Informative
    I've done a little bit of work with control systems (Honeywell) that are used to run a power plant. The author of the article is a bit disconnected from reality. You can't exactly just take one of those systems offline to patch it. Shutting the powerplant down is a complex operation that takes time. Starting it back up takes time. Things need to get up to temperature. Pressures need to build up. Fuel needs to be loaded. It's not just as simple as, "Email is going to be down for 15 minutes while we reboot the Exchange server."

    At the place I did the work for, the control systems were completely isolated from the internet. They sit on their own network and only talk to each other. They are all running Windows Server 2003 on HP Proliant ML370s with redundant everything (RAID drives, power supplies, UPSes, etc). The closest those things get to communicating with the outside world is when they download their data to a historian server on the other side of a DMZ link. It is a one way connection to the historian server. The historian is then referenced when people offsite need to know what is going on at the plant. The only way to connect to the historian is with VNC from one specific IP/MAC.

    Enough of the security tangent. The point I was originally trying to make is that most industrial machinery doesn't need to be patched. It runs one or two software applications that do a specific thing. There is absolutely no reason to touch the box once it is up and running. Security in an industrial environment needs to be handled at the physical/network layer, not at the box. Why does the hardware running your valves need internet access? Why does a box running a CNC machine need internet access?

  3. Re:Why ... by dave562 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You download the data to a historian server and reference that. There is no reason to ever remotely connect to the actual hardware that is controlling the valves and actually running the plant. I'm not sure what kind of sites you'd need to fly an admin out to, but odds are that there are already people there. I don't know too many power plants, electrical generation facilities, or oil/gas operations that are 100% automated and don't have any people around.

  4. SCADA security is a mixed bag. by Ransak · · Score: 5, Informative
    I've done SCADA security audits and managed a variety of environments with SCADA devices (PLCs, HMIs, etc).

    It's a mixed bag. Some (older GE Fanuc PLCs for example) have zero security features, and only have a telnet daemon wide open to the world. The obvious answer is to bitch at the vendor and mitigate it with ACLs or some such, but really you'd have to know something about what you're hacking at to force it to do anything more than lock up, which might be bad, but generally is more of an inconvenience to a worker on the floor since all mission critical environments should have people standing by in such a case with the ability to manually override.

    To my knowledge there's only been one real targeted SCADA hack that caused damage, and he had inside information. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for increasing security in SCADA environments, but the biggest hurdle isn't technical; it's political. Most SCADA environments that I've seen have been set up by electricians that programmed the SCADA devices but know pretty much nothing about IT (FYI, there's a lot of Linksys gear out there). They're usually paid overtime to work on the SCADA network and they see IT personnel as a threat to their livelihood. Someone I know was threatened with a screwdriver for just trying to replace a router.

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  5. Re:Why ... by baggins2001 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    What if the machine is a nuclear reactor?
    If an engineer can get eyes on without disrupting operation (talking over the phone), then he might be able to avert a problem.
    What if the machine is part of a chemical plant?
    Same as above.

    As an engineer in both instances, you would probably move more than an hour away.

    Since there are usually junior engineers on at night it can be very helpful to have a senior engineer with eyes on. It wasn't until I had 10 years of experience before I realized that I didn't have the knowledge or experience to handle an emergency during my first 5 years.

    And the powers that be wouldn't think of paying for someone that had more experience to be there.

    So some of the accidents that occur at night which are blamed on people being tired are due to them not having enough experience.

    I agree that more money and security are needed.
    But very few managers get paid extra for spending more money.
    The worst I've seen is where a controller was connected to a phone line. That controller had about 20 chemical reactors tied to it. Another controller also had a phone line and it had 4 reactors tied to it. But before this sounds really dramatic, if someone had hacked in they probably could have done some damage to the reactors, but it would not have caused a danger to humans.

    The worst I saw (safety/security) was where someone had installed pipelines carrying caustic chemicals without using a double-walled pipe (Yeah, Electrical Engineers are the same as Chemical Engineers). Yep , sure enough they had a leak. Luckily no one was injured. Some equipment was trashed, but they had insurance.
    The funniest was when the insurance guys came and wanted it to be turned on to confirm that it wasn't working. The engineer told him that he highly recommended that the equipment not be turned on. He actually showed them the fuzzy crap that was growing on the controller boards. He and another guy went and gathered five fire extinguishers, put those at their feet and told them to pull out the big red button and to press this button to start it up, if they really had to. Then told them they would be waiting outside. The insurance guy turned popped out the emergency stop button. The robotics went nuts and white flashes could be seen from the vents of the controller panel. Never got to the power on button. Experiment lasted about 3 sec. Insurance agent nearly drove the Emergency off button into the panel.

    There were 3 more systems and they decided that they could just look at the fuzzy stuff on the control cards. Didn't need to turn them on after all.

    So considering all the trouble we had with keeping safety standards in check, I'd say good luck with handling getting money for proper security costs.

    And they finally did double-wall their chemical lines and eventually it became a legal requirement. So from then on there wasn't a problem with getting chemical lines double-walled and properly labeled, not with just the yellow caution tags, but with flags. Flags weren't a legal requirement, but they are cheap.

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