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'Super Steel' Sought For Fusion Reactors

Smivs writes "New research shows how steel will fail at high temperatures because of the magnetic properties of the metal. Scientists say an understanding of how the Twin Towers collapsed will help them develop the materials needed to build fusion reactors. The New York buildings fell when their steel backbones lost strength in the fires that followed the plane impacts. Dr Sergei Dudarev told the British Association Science Festival that improved steels were now being sought. The principal scientist at the United Kingdom Atomic Energy Authority (UKAEA) said one of the first applications for these better performing metals would be in the wall linings of fusion reactors."

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  1. Re:If it doesn't work... by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 0, Troll

    Yeah. The Twin Towers should have toppled over, but instead, they blew up like a building that was being imploded for demolition. Also, the melting point of the steel used in the Twin Towers is actually about 400 degrees HOTTER than the temperature at which jet fuel burns.

    The Twin Towers would also be the first example in history of a steel building where the steel failed due to fire.

  2. Re:one could say the same of creationists by eiceic · · Score: 0, Troll

    There was a time when the crowd would ostracize you for answering even number one as TRUE....

    1) The world is round TRUE/FALSE
    2) The sun is the center of the solar system TRUE/FALSE
    3) Santa is a fairy tale designed to keep kids in control during the year TRUE/FALSE
    4) God is a fairy tale designed to keep kids/adults in control during the year TRUE/FALSE
    5) Humans evolved from apes TRUE/FALSE
    6) 9/11 was a controlled implosion TRUE/FALSE

    Before writing the "truthers" off as silly, try and think back to when you believed in Santa and you slowly changed your world view as the facts started piling up against the whole idea..

  3. Re:shameless by javilon · · Score: 0, Troll

    The only reason why Theocracies on the middle east exist is that the USA needs them so they can pump out the resources of the country without having to care for the general population. They would not be able to do that with a democracy.

    So in a way, you are right. The root cause is oil.

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  4. Re:We've learned something new about 9/11 by The+Fun+Guy · · Score: 0, Troll

    Irony mode = ON

    Why do you think the Bush administration blew up the Twin Towers in the first place?

    1. Blow up Twin Towers.
    2. Go to war for oil.
    3. Use the Twin Towers fire to justify continued research on the chimera of clean nuclear power at some future date, instead of clean renewable energy technologies today.
    4. BLANK
    5. Profit! From Big Energy i.e. Oil and Nuclear!

    Irony mode = OFF

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  5. Re:It's Certainly a Strange Coping Mechanism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    The twin towers DIDN'T HAVE "STEEL BACKBONES" so exactly how analysing the failure modes of these mythical structures is going to be useful is a mystery.

    Your little psychological insights aside, can you point me to a site that shows the "steel backbone" of the WTC towers?

  6. Reardon metal? WTF? by leoxx · · Score: 0, Troll

    I guess, as per usual most people haven't even RTFA. Here's an excerpt:

    The principal scientist at the United Kingdom Atomic Energy Authority (UKAEA) said one of the first applications for these better performing metals would be in the wall linings of fusion reactors where temperatures would be in a similar range to those experienced in the Twin Towers' fires.

    Surprise! It took a big bad nanny state government scientist to do this research. That sound you hear is ayn spinning in her grave. Maybe some government funded research lab will be able to figure out how to harness her spinning to power the grid.

  7. No surprise here by tuxgeek · · Score: 0, Troll

    Surprising how many stupid people present @ /. this morning. Seeing all the conspiracy theory posts all being modded troll. Wake up dumbasses, you have all been lied to.

    For the record, my day job is a heating technician specialist. I have been working with all heating fuels for 30 years. I know exactly what can and cannot be done with kerosene, or in this case, jet fuel.

    Here are the facts. Jet fuel is the same thing as kerosene, or fuel oil #1, with some additives for jet turbine use. In the twin tower experiment it would be the hottest burning combustible fuel available along with paper and plastics. None of these are capable of melting high strength structural steel encased inside of hardened concrete.
    In uncontrolled combustion kerosene doesn't burn very hot at all. Maybe 1000 degrees if you're lucky. To get maximum heat from kerosene, such as your furnace, you have to inject it through a specialized metering spray pattern device (nozzle) @ 100 - 300 psi and blast compressed air through it to achieve at best 2400 degrees. Put a chunk of rebar in front of the business end of your oil burner and all you will get is very hot steel, nothing more. To vaporize structural steel you need ~5000 degrees. This is where the termite comes in to play.
    The only damage the twin towers suffered from the collisions were broken glass, shattered drywall, twisted metal studs, and fire from 1000 degree burning kerosene splashed all over.

    Nope, not on your best day can you bring down any modern high rise with a jet. For that you need an explosive to shatter the high strength concrete surrounding the 2" structural rebar, and then you need termite to melt the rebar.
    This probably explains why the pentagon didn't collapse as the 3 towers did. They couldn't get demolition materials past security. Oh, and WTC7 wasn't even hit by anything but flying debris, but it was also imploded into it's own foot print. It was probably another target in the scheme but another plane was not commandeered and the job had to be completed to cover up the future question of found planted explosives and the resulting derailment of their evil plan.

    So here is the jist of it, like it or not. Those acquiring power in 2000 knew in advance the jet attack planned and they knew the day. They sent in their own demolition experts disguised as everyday contractors to wire the 3 towers for implosion ahead of time. On Sept. 11 2001 after the impacts they imploded the 3 structures and for theatrical impact they murdered ~3000 civilians.
    All so they could invade Afganistan to build a gas pipeline, and to invade Iraq so they could seize control of their vast oil fields and control global oil revenues.

    So, how do all you voting republicans out there feel about being sodomized with $5/gal fuel prices. Of course with an election coming up they are relaxing the pricing gouge in hope of swinging the election to McSame. I imaging after the November election fuel prices will soar even higher regardless of whom gets elected.

    But don't take my word for it, do everyone around you a favor and research the data for yourselves. Google "physicists engineers for truth" will make you a smarter person. Who knows you may even get laid someday.

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