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Cross-Platform Video Chat For Linux?
Ethan1701 writes "Some of my friends are using iChat to stay in touch and gap the distance of the Atlantic. I'm feeling left out on my Fedora Gnome based desktop. Is there a good program for Gnome that provides cross-platform instant messaging and video chat? This rules out Skype and aMSN, as well as any other app that's specific for the ICQ/AOL Network. Kopete is for KDE. Pidgin doesn't intend to develop video-chat, I haven't found a plugin for it that provides video, and Gaim-vv hasn't been developed in over two years and is so out of date that it's still going by Gaim and not Pidgin. Do Slashdot readers have an application that meets these needs? Maybe even one that surpasses iChat?"
Well, personally, I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot barge pole. Getting text to work with these stupid undocumented protocols is hard enough. I imagine getting video to work is pulling your hair out work.
How we know is more important than what we know.
"I'm feeling left out"
:-)
Congratulations, you've just comprehended the whole of Apple's advertising strategy.
Skype works fine in Linux, with Video.
I use it all the time (with video) on my Acer Aspire One (similar to the Asus EEE) with Linpus Linux (which is a Fedora deriverative running XFCE).
I have also used it in Ubuntu and Kubuntu with video, without problems.
I'm still not sure the OP's gripe with Skype.
So what? It will work fine (though I don't know that it will do waht you want). It just won't match the rest of your desktop. With few exceptions KDE applications work fine on a Gnome "desktop" and vice-versa.
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how about if you bring your car to my mechanic shop. you say 'can i convert it to hybrid'. i say, 'well, no, but there are guys up in washington state who sell conversion kits'. 'is there a kit for my car'. 'well, no but, if we take a transmission just like yours and send it to them, they can fabricate a coupler.' "ok what about the battery box". 'well, thats in progress'.
Are you doing all this for me for free? If so, I should say "thank you" and not fucking complain.
How we know is more important than what we know.
It's also compatible with nothing else, all code are unknown and it's proprietary like shit. Also you will have no idea what happens on the network and your communications is sent over P2P.
Greeeeat!!! / Tony.
Your example is flawed. If someone says:
"there is a nail sticking out of the floor"
that's fine. But when someone says:
"it is completely unacceptable of you to have left this nail sticking out of the floor"
then the only acceptable response from the builder who provided the house for free is:
"go fuck yourself whiner"
In fact, a builder who had provided a house for free and just got complaints for his efforts would just stop building houses for free and that's what happens with many open source developers too. Which is why the rest of us, who are quite thankful for the selfless efforts of others, are standing there telling the whiner to shut the fuck up.
How we know is more important than what we know.
Many people in China really like the controls on internet access that exist here.
And others don't like the control of the net in China. Thousands there were protesting. Heck a reporter, working for CNN I think, was detained when he was reporting on some protesters. Others find ways around the filters. Just because some have no problem with the Great Firewall of China doesn't mean others don't have a problem with it.
She was very skeptical of the unrestricted access that exists in the west with concerns that it would be easy to be lied to if you have no way if knowing who you are talking to.
I'd ask if her if she thought lies couldn't be told with government control. The government could lie all it wants if it controls all media. A free press supposed to be one of the checks on government.
Falcon
Should there be a Law?
The point was that SIP clients will talk to each other. They don't need to be the same client. They don't need to be cross platforrm. Same for XMPP and Jingle. Do you care if your GTalk buddy is using GTalk, Pidgin, or one of the ten other clients that support XMPP?
The cross-platform requirement just doesn't seem to make sense. That's what standards are for.
Put identity in the browser.
Please be kind enough and show us something that has an open protocol, works as p2p, not proprietary, has 12 million people online and is not being blocked/traffic shaped by your ISP ?
Just maybe, i mean really, just maybe, there is a reason why skype doesn't want everyone on their cake party ?
You also have the option to check out msn's protocol which horribly abused by bots to spread scam and malware, or take a peek at most open source chat clients who's userbase is comparable with the number of students in some major college.
I just see why skype does things the way it does, i'm not saying that it's 100% right, but it is one of the best options out there today.
I'd tell you the chances of this story being a dupe, but you wouldn't like it.
Some of these (Ekiga at least), use open protocols that allow interoperation with people using different clients on other platforms, some are cross-platform themselves (Ekiga, Skype), some use propreitray protocols to allow inter-operation (aMSN, GYachi).
If you ask a question, state what the actual problem is!
OK, here's my counter-counter-analogy.
A friend of yours gives you a toy that he made himself, for you to give to your kid. Unfortunately, the toy consists partially of broken glass, rusty nails, and a rabid badger. You smile, nod, and say "thank you," and as soon as your friend isn't looking, toss the toy into the rubbish bin.
A week later, you're talking to some friends and say, "you know, I really need to get a toy for my kid. He's bored of his old one, and he needs something for his next stage in cognitive development." The friend of yours who gave you the glass and nails and badger... thing... happens to be walking by, overhears you, and says, "well, what was wrong with the wonderful toy I gave him last week? I put a lot of time and energy into it!" You say, "I really don't want a lacerated, tetanus-infected rabid kid, but thanks anyway." Your friend says, "you damn ingrate! Go f*** yourself!" and walks away in a huff.
Um, that's what this is like.
Life endangering toy.
'Broken' instant messaging software.
Not the same thing.