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Berners-Lee Launches New W3 Foundation

robertsonadams tips us to the initiation of the World Wide Web Foundation with $5M of seed funding from the Knight Foundation. From the announcement: "Sir Tim Berners-Lee, inventor of the World Wide Web, unveils the World Wide Web Foundation. It aims to advance One Web that is free and open, to expand its capability and robustness, and to extend its benefits to all people on the planet." The new foundation's site should have video up soon of Berners-Lee's speech at the kickoff event. The foundation hopes to raise $50M–$100M and will issue grants in Web science, technology and practice, and Web for society. Initial plans will be disclosed early next year.

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  1. Quick! by BitterOldGUy · · Score: 4, Funny

    Let's find all the jokes that have been posted about the Web being forked and post, "See! We told you so! Funny mod my ass!"

  2. "One Web that is free and open" by gogita21 · · Score: 4, Funny

    One Web to rule them all...

    1. Re:"One Web that is free and open" by rk87 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Bastard, ya beat me to it!

      Three Interwebs for the AT&T-kings under Bell Labs,
      Seven for the GNU-lords in their halls of source,
      Nine for Mortal n00bs doomed to pwnage,
      One for the Borg on his dark throne
      In the Land of Internet where the /b/tards lie.
      One Web to connect() them all, One Web to gethostbyname() them,
      One Web to bring them all and in the darkness bind() them
      In the Land of Internet where the /b/tards lie.

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  3. Job for the foundation: fight UN traceback by Morgaine · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I suggest that Tim uses his influence and backing from the new foundation to fight this latest China-inspired UN move to provide IP traceback and lose anonymity across the net.

    His WWW would never have blossomed the way it did under such Big Brother conditions, and we'd all be a lot poorer for it. The control freaks just don't understand the benefit of emergent systems, and that freedom has a price. Sure, we suffer a few annoyances and some real crimes, but it's still infinitely better than everybody living in a police state.

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  4. Some urgent work to do by pieterh · · Score: 4, Interesting

    1. Stop the moves in Europe to lock-down the Internet and install filters at every ISP, which are being pushed by the music, movie, and TV industries in cahoots with the telecoms giants that now control most of the ISP landscape.

    2. Bring the Internet to Africa. For crying out loud, enough of the extortion already. Africans need cheap communications to escape their geographic and historic prison, and while GSM was a plausible attempt, it's being strangled by the telcos.

    3. Invest in new platforms for free and open digital standards. These are the basis of the Internet and they are being strangled by firms like Microsoft which want to see their own technologies dominate.

    1. Re:Some urgent work to do by jc42 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      1. Stop the moves ... to lock-down the Internet and install filters at every ISP, ...
      2. Bring the Internet to Africa. ...
      3. Invest in new platforms for free and open digital standards. These are the basis of the Internet and they are being strangled by firms like Microsoft which want to see their own technologies dominate.

      All true, but note that this is nothing new. Much of the early history of the Internet was based on exactly these problems. The original US DoD funding for ARPAnet was openly aimed at fighting a growing problem in the military: They were using more and more electronic comm devices, but hardly any two pieces of equipment from different manufacturers could communicate sensibly. The corporate world everywhere wanted customers to buy only from them, and official standards didn't help much. Manufacturers found ways to "enhance" the standards in ways that were incompatible with competitors' equipment.

      The solution was to build a new sort of "network" layer that ran on top of all the vendors' incompatible equipment. The new network would encode the data into a binary form that wasn't supposed to be understood by the lower-level equipment. The lower-level stuff was used simply to transport the bits, which at every interface would be translated into whatever form the next equipment could transfer correctly. At the final destination, whatever form the bits arrived in would be translated back into whatever form the last chunk of hardware wanted.

      Initially this was expensive. It involved a lot of separate computers (the IMPs) that interceded all over the place. With time, as people understood how to do the job right, and solid-state circuitry became smaller, the job could be moved into circuit cards and then chips that did the same job. Now the Internet part of a gadget is small and cheap.

      But the entire point was to admit that the companies that supply the hardware and connectivity would always be trying to sabotage any standards, and force customers to buy only their own equipment by blocking communication with competitors' equipment. The fact that ISPs and telcos are doing the same today should come as no surprise. They always have done this, and they always will. The questions isn't whether we can prevent this; we can't. The question is whether we can get our bits delivered through a network built of unreliable components. The fact that some components are actively trying to block traffic, for whatever reasons, is simply a fact of life. For the network to work, it has to work despite failures (accidental or intentional) on the part of the low-level comm equipment.

      One obvious approach is to consider IPv4 as just a vendor-supplied network, and solve the ISPs' sabotage the same way we have for decades: Build another network layer above it that takes into account its failures.

      Of course, we're well on our way to doing this. One part is known as "https". Another part is known by the name "mesh". Bittorrent implements another part. And others are under development. With time, we can make the corporate world's sabotage as irrelevant with the same approach we have been using since the 1960s, when the ARPAnet started up. We encode the data into forms that they can't decode, and when they drop or damage too many packets, we route around them.

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  5. World Wide Web Foundation by tripmine · · Score: 4, Funny

    W3F?!?!?

  6. Knight Foundation - here comes Knight Rider by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Wow, Knight Foundation is footing the bill, I am sure we will see Michael, and Kit running the show...seriously having Kit run the web would be awesome....knight rider rules

  7. Maybe, maybe not by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 4, Informative

    Hopefully the WWWF will take a rather more balanced view than that expressed in the parent post. I have some faith that it will: Berners-Lee has always struck me as both a smart guy and someone who genuinely wants to do the right thing. It is interesting that considering issues such as privacy and security is explicitly mentioned in the WWWF concept paper (available on their web site), but that Berners-Lee also told the BBC he was concerned about the need to separate rumour from reliable information on the web. Whether or not on-line anonymity should be possible is pretty fundamental to these issues.

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  8. The foundation's work is primarily educational by davide+marney · · Score: 4, Informative

    From http://www.webfoundation.org/programs/

    The Foundation will launch with three projects:
    Web Science and Research, Web Technology and Practice, and Web for Society.

    The output of the projects will be:

    - Studies
    - Basic research
    - Thought leadership
    - Curricula
    - Conferences, workshops, etc.
    - Support for organizations developing Web standards
    - Support for organizations using the web to solve social problems
    - Training materials, guidelines, etc.

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  9. Re:"Inventor" should be quoted by NickFortune · · Score: 4, Insightful

    His contribution was, no doubt, huge, but the inventor he was not -- considering the existence of all the prior works, including Gopher, there was nothing in his work, that was not "obvious to someone skilled in the art".

    Umm... your wikipedia link points at an entry in the talk page for Sir Tim's wikipedia entry. It cheerfully conflates Internet and Web in order to try and make a case. There are some fairly robust rebuttals there as well.

    Citing such poor quality references weakens your argument rather than strengthening it.

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