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Data Centers Crucial To Lehman Sale

miller60 writes "What assets retain value in the midst of a financial panic? Data centers. When assets of bankrupt Lehman Brothers were sold to Barclays Tuesday for $1.75 billion, Lehman's data centers and headquarters accounted for $1.5 billion of the value in the deal. That echoes the JPMorgan-Bear Stearns fire sale, in which Bear's two data centers and HQ represented much of the sale price. Amidst financial turmoil, Wall Street's high-tech data centers become the crown jewels for buyers of distressed assets."

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  1. Suprising? by AKAImBatman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What assets retain value in the midst of a financial panic? Data centers.

    You know what else retains value in the midst of a financial panic? Skyscrapers.

    Anytime you have physical assets, you have value. Especially if those physical assets are in continuing demand. (Which data centers are in particular, because the Technology sector is doing quite well right now.)

    The only difference is that companies rarely own their own spaces anymore. They sold them off to realty companies long ago, because they didn't want to be in the real-estate business. This sort of sell/lease arrangement is almost certain to become common with data centers in the future. CoLos are already the standard of the industry, and are going to take over increasing amounts of large corporate business in the future.

  2. Not surprising, but not really about data centers by Optic7 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Is it any surprise that the most valuable assets in a company that is going down the tubes would be its physical assets, real estate, etc? The summary itself says data centers AND HEADQUARTERS. What a shock that "datacenterknowledge.com" is telling us how valuable and important data centers are. I'm almost tempted to say this is spam, but I can't be bothered to go to the website to learn more about it.

  3. Re:It's all about the data by mccalli · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Posted anon since I was involved in one of these things recently.

    At least, it would have been if I'd had a brain.

    OK, since my name's out I'll finish the job. The operations are most likely valuable, as are the apps running in there. However, come merger and consolidation time merely having those centres around is a tremendous advantage. These things cost serious amounts of cash, and the electronic transaction volumes are growing all the time - yes, even now. So the raw existence of a pre-equipped building is the thing, not necessarily the data files within it.

    Cheers,
    Ian

  4. Re:It's all about the data by AKAImBatman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And let's not forget the multi-gigawatt generators, the fail-over system, the trained staff, the fire suppression systems, the network infrastructure, the secured access, etc., etc., etc.

    The actual servers in the racks are the LEAST valuable part of a good data center. They're also the highest depreciating.

  5. Re:Asset valuation programmer seeks job by Ethanol-fueled · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Idiots buying houses they couldn't afford so they were foreclosed and sold for cheap.

    Companies enabling idiots to buy things they can't afford have their own assets siezed and sold for cheap.

    Poetic Justice(tm)

  6. Re:It's all about the data by wild_quinine · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Information is timeless and valuable.

    I just can't agree with this. When something is timeless that means that it does not age. But information does age. Virtually all information ages; all information relating to human affairs certainly does. The aging of information can be measured not merely in whether it is forgotten, or known, but in how it is considered. Remember: we can still watch the original series of Knight Rider on re-run channels. This does not mean it is 'timeless'. It would be too polite to call it anachronistic.

    Even for example the information we have about the collapse of Lehman.

    Two weeks ago that information would have been worth billions.

    Now it is common knowledge, and the details must be investigated, after the fact.

    In twenty years it will be of historical interest, taught in economics classes.

    In a thousand years it may have been forgotten.

    The very fact that we have already seen different states of this information over two weeks means that it is not timeless.

  7. Re:Asset valuation programmer seeks job by spun · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Nice. I'm sure this whole mess boild down to 'idiots buying houses they can't afford' and the companies who enable them.

    No, I'm sure no normal people got hurt in this mess, only bad, dumb people or greedy people who deserved it. I'm sure no first time home owning, hard working parents with dreams of getting out of the ghetto were suckered into ARMS that would screw them over at the first downturn. Nope. Couldn't happen.

    I'm sure no one with a job they thought was secure got laid off and found their finances spiraling out of control, then found themselves and their kids living in their car. Nope. Not in America.

    Have a heart, man. Don't try to make reality fit your worldview that everything is fair, hard work is always rewarded, and only bad people have bad things happen to them. People are born with compassion and empathy circuits in our brain for a reason, and those that don't have them or can't use them are seriously handicapped.

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  8. There's a difference between 'dumb' and 'trusting' by spun · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Also, a difference between 'dumb' and 'uneducated about financial matters.' Is there a class on ARMS in high school people can take? I don't think those are covered in home ec.

    People can't be experts on every field. Add to that fact that finances bring up survival fears in most people, and fear shuts down the brain, and you will see that many people may be smart in many areas, but uneducated about finance.

    So people have to trust the experts they hire to do right by them. When those experts say, "Hey, you can own a house now and save that money you were putting into rent. Don't read the fine print, it's boring and it doesn't matter," people trust those experts. And they were misled.

    Finally, I know you probably agree with me but I have to point it out: dumb people do not DESERVE to be taken advantage of by smart people. Social Darwinism is an inherently fascist, evil, and anti-social philosophy that destroys societies and people's lives. Don't subscribe to it. Society works because of trust, and social Darwinism destroys that trust.

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  9. Re:There's a difference between 'dumb' and 'trusti by Abreu · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I have to point it out: dumb people do not DESERVE to be taken advantage of by smart people. Social Darwinism is an inherently fascist, evil, and anti-social philosophy that destroys societies and people's lives. Don't subscribe to it. Society works because of trust, and social Darwinism destroys that trust.

    Quoted because it deserved to be posted twice.

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  10. Re:Asset valuation programmer seeks job by David+Gerard · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "We owe it all to the bedrock of our economy: the ordinary hard-working taxpayer. You resisted the siren call of credit cards, lived within your means to save for a rainy day, never took out an interest-only mortgage, credit score to make Jesus cry. Without taking every penny you saved over the $100,000 guarantee, we'd never have made it. And the best bit is, we know you'll still vote Republican! God bless you all!"

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  11. Re:There's a difference between 'dumb' and 'trusti by IamTheRealMike · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Also, a difference between 'dumb' and 'uneducated about financial matters.' Is there a class on ARMS in high school people can take? I don't think those are covered in home ec.

    No, you're mixing two separate things up. If you don't understand ARMs that doesn't make you dumb. But if you then buy one and you don't understand them, that definitely makes you dumb. What the hell?! A mortgage is a huge commitment. You're going to be paying it back for a long, long time. If somebody commits to a huge thing, turns around and says "Oops! I guess I can't deal with this after all. It was scary and my brain shut down" then I don't see why they are deserving of much sympathy.

    So people have to trust the experts they hire to do right by them. When those experts say, "Hey, you can own a house now and save that money you were putting into rent. Don't read the fine print, it's boring and it doesn't matter," people trust those experts. And they were misled.

    No, they were stupid. The risks involved with large debts are enormous. This is way different than being misled by a second hand car salesman and buying a SUV with poor mileage. This is a vast sum of money. If there's one time in your life you read the boring fine print and think about it really hard, it's when taking out a gigantic loan.

    Finally, I know you probably agree with me but I have to point it out: dumb people do not DESERVE to be taken advantage of by smart people. Social Darwinism is an inherently fascist, evil, and anti-social philosophy that destroys societies and people's lives. Don't subscribe to it. Society works because of trust, and social Darwinism destroys that trust.

    Now this I do agree with. However trust can cross a line into blindness. Somebody who does whatever they're told without considering the consequences eventually crosses the line from being a poor innocent misled person into something else - a liability to society.