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Bavarian Police Seeking Skype Trojan Informant

Andreaskem writes "Bavarian police searched the home of the spokesman for the German Pirate Party (Piratenpartei Deutschland) looking for an informant who leaked information about a government Trojan used to eavesdrop on Skype conversations. (The link is a Google translation of the German original.) There is a high probability that the Trojan is used illegally. A criminal law specialist said, 'The Bavarian authorities worked on the Trojan without a legitimate basis and now try to silence critics.' The informant need not worry since 'every information that could be used to identify him' is protected against unauthorized access by strong encryption. The Trojan is supposedly capable of eavesdropping on Skype conversations and obtaining technical details of the Skype client being used. It is deployed by e-mail or in place by the police. A Pirate Party spokesman said, 'Some of our officials seem to want to install the Big Brother state without the knowledge of the public.'"

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  1. Re:Disconcerting convergence of technologies... by HungryHobo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I can remember a debate I had a while back about the potential of some cheap wifi tech hooked up to a small webcam and worn on your person when going to protests or other events where you expect there to be a high chance of the police breaking the law. So that it could stream everything you see directly to a secure online store.
    This would have great potential for making sure police who abuse their power get in trouble or are at least publicly shown to be abusing their power.
    My friends rebuttal was that they'd simply introduce a law banning private citizens from using such devices at protests and call it a measure against pedophiles (to stop them filming the little kids walking around in the streets! You never know what they'd be thinking about if they had video of your children walking on a public street!!!).
    As long as people will accept anything in the name of fighting terrorists or paedophiles then civil liberties are fucked.

  2. It happens in the UK too. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Posting Anonymously to protect my job,

    I have been working for a few months on software designed to extract skype calls from streams of captured packets. The software is highly distributed, and while I can't know the exact use, I'm guessing it will be installed near every network interconnect point. Interestingly, it has nowehere near the performance required to record every skype call on the internet, so it will probably only be used for certain targets.

    The good news is that the project is failing badly due to funding issues and poor management, and probably won't be deployed for years yet.

    Note that this IS with the help of skype engineers - we haven't reverse engineered the encryption.

  3. Choices vs. objects by CustomDesigned · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Murder can usefully be outlawed, because it is a choice that an intelligent person makes. (In fact, if the killer is mentally deficient and incapable of making that choice, it is treated different legally.) A gun, knife, automobile, HCl etc, morphine, are objects of varying degrees of danger and usefulness.

    Particular objects are reasonably controlled when the danger they present is not obvious to an ordinary person. Someone not familiar with chemistry may be tragically surprised by the destructiveness of a bottle of HCl (although warning labels help). Hence it makes sense to make it hard to get unless you know what you are doing.

    A knife is an obvious danger. Even if you don't speak the language. Even if you just came from deepest darkest Africa and have never seen technology before. A gun is an obvious danger to someone exposed to any technology of the last 400 years. (Although apparently too many idiots don't think about the danger of it going off accidentally.)

    So objects likely to result in accidental death are controlled, and hopefully still available with a license that demonstrates basic competence. (And where you draw the line depends on how stupid you think the average citizen is.) And deliberating causing death via any means is illegal - although most places allow for circumstances like duels, self-defense, etc.

    Controlling an object/substance to prevent accidental death does *not* protect anyone from intentional death via that object/substance. Gun control may prevent some accidental home shootings, but it does not stop criminals from getting guns. Heck, if nothing else go back to basics and make a primitive weapon from steel rod and homemade gunpowder like they did in the 18th century. What next? Outlaw lathes? Outlaw metal cutting tools that could be attached to a homemade lathe? Outlaw fire since it could be used to forge and temper metal cutting tools?

  4. Stasi 2.0 by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 3, Interesting

    For the first time in my life, I will attempt to post something informative on Slashdot.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stasi_2.0

    The, err, um, joke, is that the Stasi were the former East German secret police (1.0).

    The major failure of the Stasi (1.0), was that they were collecting too much data, that they could ever dream of analyzing.

    Has 2.0 deeper pockets?

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  5. Re:Contradiction in terms by owlnation · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "A Pirate Party spokesman said, 'Some of our officials seem to want to install the Big Brother state without the knowledge of the public."

    In this they are incorrect. The beauty of the Orwellification of the Western world right now is that it is with the full co-operation of the general public.

    Step 1. Create imaginary bogeymen -- "terrorists", "pedophiles"
    Step 2. Create hysteria that gives the false impression that said bogeymen are common, rather than, in reality, very rare.
    Step 3. Create economic crisis to fan the flames of hatred and jealousy.

    And viola, the general public will help you light the gas ovens.

    We have learned nothing whatsoever from history. Nothing. Not. One. Thing.

  6. Re: Bad german history by Daimanta · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The so called "disadvantage" isn't a real disadvantage. Why? People forget, generations go past. Old people die, young people are born. World War II will be a lesson as long as people who have lived during that era can tell something about it. That may be possible now but in about 30 years almost all people who went through that period will have died. Then, nobody can tell us about the horrors of WWII, the brutalities, the bombing raids, the razzias.

    World War II will become like World War I, a forgotten war. As a joke I always use "Wilhelm II" as my avatar on every forum I am a member of. Nobody knows who "the guy with the weird moustache" is. Nobody is offended because it happened before any of us lived. The shockeffect is gone. 40 million people DIED in that war and I bet not even 1% can tell you who fought who.

    It's a tragedy.
    And the tragedy will return, but as a farce.

    Nobody is safe from failings, people thinking that they are immune to making mistakes are wrong. You WILL support the wrong guy and he will take away your freedoms. You WILL cheer for the soldiers sent into a useless and bloody war. And the lessons will be learned by you and forgotten by your children.

    I feel sorry for humanity.

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