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Political Viewpoints Linked To Fear

Pentagram writes "Researchers writing in Science report that the political orientation of test subjects who have strong views is linked to how easy they are to startle. They found that subjects who were more fearful were more likely to have right wing views, such as being in favor of capital punishment and higher defense budgets. The researchers suggest that this psychological difference is why it is so difficult to change people's minds in political arguments."

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  1. In related news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Easily startled people carry guns, so be careful out there!

  2. And I'm sure... by roc97007 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...the timing of this article is a complete coincidence.

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  3. Re:So in other words... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Strictly speaking, fear doesn't make one a coward. Acting only on that fear is what makes one a coward.

  4. Re:NPR has the scoop by SerpentMage · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Do a search on:

    "The Power of Nightmares..."

    Its six hours long, but well worth the time.

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  5. Re:Fear? Look in the mirror by Bearpaw · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Talk about fear of competing ideas, you Libs need a mirror. Variations of this story appear here and on every libtard site every few weeks now, claiming conservative ideas are the result of mental defect. Because if you can keep that idea formly in yer heads you can justify the childish antics you guys normally do when exposed to a different set of ideas, shout it down. Because if the other side is mentally ill there isn't a reason to even allow them to speak.

    To a liberal, 'diversity' is defined as all colors, gender identities and faiths all thinking exactly alike. Because the one thing liberalism can't tolerate is reasoned debate since the whole system is based on emotion.

    No, I don't think liberalism is a mental illness in return. I think it is evil. You guys have free will, you chose the wrong side. Of course you convince yourselves that notions like good and evil are outdated because few will admit to serving evil so you solve that problem by handwaving the whole question away.

    Wow, your sane, calm, and carefully-reasoned response has totally convinced me.

  6. Re:NPR has the scoop by wellingj · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Theft if theft. I'm by no means rich, but I pay 28% of my income to the government and something tells me not even a whole 1% actually helps care for poor children... dropping bombs, invading countries, corporate bailouts, welfare to able bodies, spying on citizens...

    Need I go on about the various horrors that the wealth I make for 2hours and 20minutes out of every day enables? Here is a novel thought, why don't they not take my money and I can give it directly to the poor children. Why does the government need a cut?

    Here, please educate yourself

  7. Re:So in other words... by David+Gould · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I don't think acting out of a perceived need of self preservation is how I would define cowardice.

    No, but being too quick to "perceive" such a need -- that's cowardice.

    (Over-re)acting out of all proportion to the severity of the threat -- that's cowardice.

    Letting it skew your priorities to the point that you neglect to protect yourself against other (less dramatic but equally or more important) dangers -- that's not only cowardice, it's stupid and makes you less safe.

    Allowing your rights to be violated whenever the administration says "Grant us this expanded executive power, or we'll let the terrorists kill you" -- that's cowardice.

    Does that clear anything up?

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  8. Re:So in other words... by Walkingshark · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Except when you percieve innocent things, like gay marriage, as a threat to your self preservation.

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  9. Re:So in other words... by riceboy50 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That just depends on which liberties you're watching.

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  10. gun control by selfdiscipline · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That makes me wonder:

    Are fearful people more likely to be against gun control or for it? I can see fear playing a part in both sides of the issue.

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    1. Re:gun control by Grishnakh · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That's exactly why I think this study is totally bogus. They're basically assuming that the current Democrat and Republican political platforms are 1) the only two possible viewpoints people could have, and 2) basically unchanging ideals. There's tons of people who don't agree with either, or agree with parts of both parties' platforms. These platforms aren't the way they are because people believe in them; they have arisen out of political expediency. For instance, why are the Republicans in favor of religious fundamentalism, foreign wars, and deregulation of business? Because these things actually go together? No. This came about because the power brokers in the Republican Party panders to religious fundamentalists in order to get votes, so they can get elected and pursue their economic agenda which benefits their wealthy friends.

      The Democrats aren't much different. They pander to poor people and people afraid of guns with promises of welfare and gun control, so they can get votes and enact laws (like the DMCA) which benefit their wealthy friends and campaign donors.

      These parties would happily change their platforms if it netted them more votes, as long as they could continue enriching themselves and their wealthy friends. These politicians are sociopaths and don't actually care about society, their country, the people they serve, or whether their laws are right or wrong. Why else do you think Republicans, who are always bashing gay people, are frequently discovered (in airport restrooms, no less) to be gay themselves?

  11. Re:Sure, But Only the Paranoids Survive by jbeach · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Ahem - they are **reporting** that they have better mental health. Doesn't mean they're actually healthier. In fact, they could just be more fearful that other people will think they're nuts.

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  12. Re:NPR has the scoop by hey! · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Aristotle says the virtues are always midpoints between extremes, and the extremes are vices.

    The opposite of cowardice isn't courage, it's rashness. Courage is the temperate midpoint between the vice of cowardice and the vice of rashness. Courage accepts danger but acts, which makes it different from either extreme.

    Rashness and cowardice are the kinds of superficial opposites that have many inner similarities. The coward fears to act, and the fool fears to think.

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  13. Re:Sure, But Only the Paranoids Survive by DeanFox · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A November 2007 Gallup poll reveals that Republicans by a wide margin across all age, gender, income, and education levels report significantly better mental health than Democrats and Independents.

    Just to be clear. They rate their own mental health as excellent. They believe they're the ones who are sane and everybody else is crazy.

    PRINCETON, NJ -- Republicans are significantly more likely than Democrats or independents to rate their mental health as excellent, according to data from the last four November Gallup Health and Healthcare polls.

    It appears Democrats at least have an open mind to the possibility of being wrong.

    -[d]-

  14. Re:Democrats are for defeating, no compromising wi by Phroggy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If we can open that argument up I'm convinced it will be as easy to convince the undecided that the core of the Democratic party is indeed evil as it was to win the argument the Soviet Union was utterly Evil.

    Unless you believe that the core of the Republican party is also evil, I'm afraid I can't support your position.

    I'm younger than you are, so I missed the Cold War scare that you're referring to. Consequently, I don't have an irrational fear and hatred of the USSR drilled into me, so telling me that the Democratic party is as evil as Russia was in Reagan's day just doesn't make the emotional connection you were going for.

    I can see that if you start with the premise that Cold War era Russia was inherently evil, and the Democratic party promotes some of the same ideas that were a cornerstone of Russian society, then the Democratic party must be evil because those ideas must be evil. However, please try to understand that many of us do not take this premise to be a given. If you believe socialized healthcare is evil, you'll have to argue the case for why it is evil, not just draw a connection to Russia. If you believe a so-called "progressive" tax system (in which wealthier people pay a higher percentage of their income in taxes) is evil, you'll have to explain why it's evil. If you believe that charging suspected terrorists with crimes and prosecuting them in a court of law, rather than simply detaining them without charge indefinitely and subjecting them to torture, is evil, you'll have to explain why. If you believe requiring a warrant in order to eavesdrop on someone's phone calls is evil, make your case.

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  15. People vs. Things by Guppy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    When it comes to the physiological response, a more complete description might be "fight or flight", as Fear and Aggression are closely linked. In addition, I've noticed that Conservatives tend to be afraid of People, while Liberals tend to be afraid of Things.

    To clarify, I mean that Conservatives seem to focus on threats with a human face -- foreign terrorists and rogue dictators without; criminals, illegal immigrants, and gays within (gays are a particularly interesting example of "threat", due to an odd mix of cultural and psychological reasons, instead of being any threat to life/liberty/livelihood). This leads to harsher law enforcement and big military budgets.

    While Liberals seem to focus on systematic dangers, like pollution or global warming. This leads to lots of attention to things like pesticides, endocrine disruptors, and genetically modified organisms; resulting in lots of regulation and governmental intervention.

  16. Re:I guess the old saying is true, then... by blueg3 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Actually, it's not a straw-man argument, it's an illustration of a fallacy. A well-known fallacy, in fact -- the fallacy of compromise. While some sort of compromise is very often useful or effective, it does not follow logically that a compromise between two arbitrary suggestions is necessarily superior. In many cases, a "compromise solution" makes no sense; in others, it's clearly not the "fair" choice.

    There is no innate "middle ground". If you define it as a "reasonable compromise", you're imposing a particular person's arbitrary sense of "reasonable" anyway.

    Anyway, yes. Fallacy of compromise.