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Obama Significantly Revises Technology Positions

method9455 writes "Barack Obama has edited his official website on many issues, including a huge revision on the technology page. Strangely it seems net neutrality is no longer as important as it was a few months ago, and the swaths of detail have been removed and replaced with fairly vague rhetoric. Many technologists were alarmed with the choice of Joe Biden before, and now it appears their fears might have been well founded." Update: 09/22 18:07 GMT by T : Julian Sanchez of Ars Technica passed on a statement from an Obama campaign representative who points out that the changes in wording highlighted by Versionista aren't the whole story, and that more Obama tech-plan details are now available in a PDF, saying "there is absolutely no substantive change to our policy - folks who want more information can click to get our full plan."

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  1. It's not just NN by Nursie · · Score: 5, Informative

    They've cut out about half the content, and large chunks about what they'll do for kids.

    Either they've had advice that they shouldn't be promising definite things (makes it harder to weasel out of stuff later) or they're just cutting down the page size for some reason.

    Either way, bit of a non story.

    Politician changes mind, big whoop.

    1. Re:It's not just NN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      From my reviewing, it seems that they removed details/explanation to make it concise. The overall meaning and principles remain the same as before.

    2. Re:It's not just NN by GauteL · · Score: 4, Informative

      "Politician changes mind, big whoop."

      Except he hasn't changed his mind, he has simply edited several points to make them more readable.

    3. Re:It's not just NN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      Not only that, the page still contains
      Protect the Openness of the Internet: A key reason the Internet has been such a success is because it is the most open network in history. It needs to stay that way. Barack Obama strongly supports the principle of network neutrality to preserve the benefits of open competition on the Internet.

      So I think all that is happening is that he edited the actual text to make it more readable, without substantial change in his position (atleast) on network neutrality. The summary is just an overreaction and an unfounded attack on the VP candidate.

  2. Net Neutrality Position Remains Unchanged by Alt_Cognito · · Score: 5, Informative

    "Barack Obama strongly supports the principle of network neutrality to preserve the benefits of open competition on the Internet."

    Barack is completely behind net neutrality, where as McCain is not, but don't let the facts get in the way of the way you try and put FUD out there.

  3. WTF? by Southpaw018 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Strangely it seems net neutrality is no longer as important

    What the fuck are you talking about? It's THE VERY FIRST GODDAMN THING HE MENTIONS.

    Barack Obama and Joe Biden's Plan
    Ensure the Full and Free Exchange of Ideas through an Open Internet and Diverse Media Outlets

    * Protect the Openness of the Internet


    If you're a McCain supporter trying to weasel votes away on Slashdot, you need to say so.

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    1. Re:WTF? by CrimsonScythe · · Score: 4, Informative

      Well, since the summary is clearly wrong, which is evident to anyone who actually clicked the link*, I have to assume the sole purpose was to troll. To be fair, though, I may have jumped to conclusions; it could just as easily be a libertarian troll. (Or even other politically motivated troll.)

      * Verbatim from said link:

      Protect the Openness of the Internet: A key reason the Internet has been such a success is because it is the most open network in history. It needs to stay that way. Barack Obama strongly supports the principle of network neutrality to preserve the benefits of open competition on the Internet.

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  4. Re:All hail the new king, same as the old king. by squiggleslash · · Score: 5, Informative

    The GP was correct, he voted against telecom immunity in the past. In addition, in the most recent vote, he voted against telecom immunity each time the subject came up (ie for all of the amendments that were aimed at removing telecom immunity from the FISA bill), but voted for the final FISA bill (which was about a lot more than telecom immunity.)

    Whether the FISA bill was a good thing is open to question, I was disappointed in Obama voting for it myself, but it's a stretch to claim he supported the telecom immunity aspect of it when he supported all the attempts to remove telecom immunity from it.

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  5. Re:Vote with a bullet. by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Informative

    lives in suburbs - check

    Um, Barack lives right here on the South Side of Chicago. And brother, let me tell you, this ain't the suburbs.

    Also, he only became a "millionaire" in the past three years or so after writing a couple of best selling books. He only paid off his and his wife's student loans about five years ago.

    He was never "just another lawyer". Ask any of his students from the UofC law school or the people at the community organization at which he worked, for about $29,000 per year.

    Don't be a bozo.

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  6. Re:All hail the new king, same as the old king. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    If you all (including the editor) would read the page, current as of 17 September, it specifically mentions Network Neutrality as a guiding principle.

    Seriously, the whole commenting section is debating about something entirely wrong. RTFA!

  7. Re:Vote with a bullet. by theaceoffire · · Score: 4, Informative

    Almost...

    Except Barack's net worth is $799,006.

    http://fortune535.sunlightprojects.org/lawmaker/507/


    Maybe you were thinking of McCain? ($36,431,099)

    http://fortune535.sunlightprojects.org/lawmaker/498/


    And if you think you will get *any* change from an old man who has been in Office 30 years and only agrees with Bush *MORE* as it gets closer to election, I think you are misguided.

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  8. Re:All hail the new king, same as the old king. by jezor · · Score: 4, Informative

    As I've pointed out elsewhere, the Republicans still control Congress, by keeping it from passing anything substantive. They have 49 votes in the Senate, which makes anything the Democratic thin majority (49 + 2 independents, one of them Lieberman) does subject to filibuster (the Senate rules say 60 votes are needed to stop discussion), and the President has veto power, which can only be overridden by a 2/3 majority in both houses, so again Senate Republicans can keep any change from happening. Beyond that, regulations and oversight are the job of the Executive Branch through its agencies.

    As for Pelosi, given that she (as Speaker of the House) would be third in line for the presidency should Bush and Cheney be impeached and lose their positions, I didn't blame her for saying it was off the table, as otherwise it would seem like a naked power grab by her. She hasn't, though, kept other Congresspeople from proposing impeachment. {ProfJonathan}

  9. "Change" is normal: Look at earlier campaigns. by TerranFury · · Score: 5, Informative

    I was watching campaign ads from previous American presidential elections here -- it starts with the Eisenhower campaign and works forward -- and I was struck by how many candidates used the same rhetoric. "Change" has been a staple campaign theme for a long, long time.

    It seemed there were three major types of ads:

    1. "You don't switch horses in midstream."
    2. "Change!!"
    3. "He said X, but now he says NOT(X); don't trust him."

    There might also have been a fourth, "Our candidate is a nice human being!"

    Here are some examples of #2, "Change," below (I've quoted the last sentences from a number of the ads at the above URL):

    1. "Vote for new American leadership. The country needs it; the world needs it. John F. Kennedy for president."
    2. "Jimmy Carter: A leader, for a change."
    3. "Clinton-Gore: For people, for a change."
    4. "[George W. Bush]: A fresh start for America."

    "Change" is exactly what you can expect the opposition party to be selling in any election. The only reason Obama's campaign seems novel is that we have the collective memory and attention-span of a goldfish.

  10. Re:FP! by iserlohn · · Score: 5, Informative

    You really have to question the submitters' motivation on this one.

    If anybody bothered to read the diff, it is obvious that the page was re-written to improve accessibility, so that more voters can understand the issues. Long paragraphs were shortened and some of the details were omitted so that the page does not sound like a treatise.

    Some of the items like immigration was taken out, I suppose, because it didn't belong on the technology page. A lot of the text was rearranged, I assume, for better structure.

    If all you wanted to know about is net neutrality, then yes, a lot of the material that described the mechanism in detail is gone. However, this issue has been debated to death online and most people have less of an idea of how the internet works than Ted Stevens. I seriously don't think Obama has changed his stance on this, other than to put it on equal footing with other issues related to technology on that page.