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Windows 7 Trades Email and Photo Apps For Downloadable Ones

arcticstoat writes "Microsoft has said that it plans to remove a lot of the standard apps from Windows 7 in order to make the new OS 'cleaner.' Among the apps for the chop are Windows Mail, Windows Photo Gallery and Windows Movie Maker, which will no longer be included with the operating system as standard. Instead, equivalent versions of the apps will be available from Microsoft's Windows Live download service as optional free downloads, much like the new BETA versions of the apps that Windows Live offers today." Meanwhile, jammag writes that "tech pundit Mike Elgan posits that the rushed-to-market Windows 7 — due in 2010, now being beta released this October — may in fact merely be Vista with new packaging.

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  1. Re:standard apps? by andrewd18 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Reinstalled your XP anytime recently? There's a basic version installed with the OS, assuming you didn't customize it with nLite.

  2. Re:Yes, let's remove the two most-used programs by UnknowingFool · · Score: 5, Informative

    Partly right. Microsoft didn't get prosecuted for merely being a monopoly or for bundling apps with their OS. They were prosecuted for abusing their monopoly to force competitors out of the market with unsavory tactics including threatening their own hardware partners. Intel wanted to develop a faster, cleaner Java compiler. Microsoft called a meeting insinuating that they were going to favor AMD in their development if they did. The made sure that their OEMs understood that to keep their OEMs prices, the OEMs would not pre-load Netscape onto their machines, etc.

    For Apple to do the same thing, they would have to threaten BestBuy and Fry's that loading Picasa2 would be not tolerated and the like. Also Apple would make it nearly impossible to uninstall Mail or iPhoto. Right now to do that is the same as any other app: delete it. Now you can't fully uninstall QuickTime as some of the basic libraries of QuickTime are used in their Quartz rendering engine. But nothing stops you from using another movie player.

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  3. Re:Honestly, what's a "research" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Except minwin was chopped from Windows 7-- and instead they're going with an 'evolution' of the NT-series Vista kernel.

  4. Re:Honestly, what's a "research" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    NT6 *IS* MinWin. Why is it so hard to understand??
    http://shippingseven.blogspot.com/2008/05/windows-7-wont-have-compact-minwin.html

  5. Re:standard apps? by cr_nucleus · · Score: 5, Informative

    Not only did this ship with XP, as others have noted, but you couldn't remove it.

    Well, actually you can, but you have to fiddle with some obscure (and hidden) inf file in order to do so.

    As i'm a really nice guy, i found a ms kb about it: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/223182

    Talk about informative (nudge, nudge)...

  6. Re:Windows 7 by greed · · Score: 4, Informative

    Windows NT shipped as Windows NT with versions 3.1, 3.5, 3.51, and 4.0. Windows 2000 would actually say "Windows NT (Version 5.0.xxxx)" in response to the VER command. Windows XP, prior to Service Pack 1, would also say "Windows NT (Version 5.1.xxxx)". XP's VER command now says it's XP, but we know what's really in there.

    One could argue that Windows NT 2.0 was sold as OS/2; the low-level APIs are very similar in semantics, though the names and calling convention are different between OS/2 and NT. And, of course, they pulled the OS/2 GUI and file manager and put the Windows ones on it. This argument is helped by the fact that "OS/2 Warp 3" is versioned as "2.3", and "OS/2 Warp 4" is "2.4". Microsoft got the V3-and-up rights, and IBM kept the V1-and-V2 rights in the OS/2 break-up.

    (For a time, NT even included enough stuff to run 16-bit OS/2 programs. *shudder* Maybe it still does, I'm happy to say I haven't seen a 16-bit OS/2 program in 12 years.)

  7. Re:While this may not please some... by sexconker · · Score: 3, Informative

    Unless you happen to have a wireless card that isn't based on one of the 4 supported chipsets.

  8. Re:Simple test of worthiness - trust me, it works by Daengbo · · Score: 4, Informative

    The problem with Vista was people tried to use current software on 6+ year old computers.

    The problem with Vista was that it wouldn't run decently on the computers it was being sold on .