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New Denial-of-Service Attack Is a Killer

ancientribe writes "Hacker RSnake blogs about a newly discovered and deadly denial-of-service attack that could well be the next big threat to the Internet as a whole. It goes after a broadband Internet connection and KOs machines on the other end such that they stay offline even after the attack is over. It spans various systems, too: the pair of Swedish researchers who found it have already contacted firewall, operating system, and Web-enabled device vendors whose products are vulnerable to this attack." Listen to the interview (MP3) — English starts a few minutes in — and you might find yourself convinced that we have a problem. The researchers claim that they have been able to take down every system with a TCP/IP stack that they have attempted; and they know of no fix or workaround.

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  1. Not much information by mseeger · · Score: 4, Informative
    Hi,

    Neither interview nor Link provides much information about the kind of attack. Between the lines they seem to be doing something with the ressource usage by manipulating tcp session parameters. But that's idle speculation for now.

    CU, Martin

    1. Re:Not much information by Trailrunner7 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Here's a better story with more info: http://searchsecurity.techtarget.com/news/article/0,289142,sid14_gci1332898,00.html Looks like they're able to mess with the session parameters, as you said.

  2. For those who can't listen to the interview by radi0man · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here's a link to an article in English:

    http://searchsecurity.techtarget.com/news/article/0,289142,sid14_gci1332898,00.html

    From the article:

    Many TCP servers use a technique known as a SYN cookie in order to prevent attackers using spoofed IP addresses from launching SYN flood denial-of-service attacks against them. The cookie is essentially a chosen TCP initial sequence number that is calculated using some specific hashed metadata that reflects the details of the specific TCP connection. Once the client returns a correct packet to the server, the server knows that the client isn't using a forged IP address.

    Sockstress computes and stores so-called client-side SYN cookies and enables Lee and Louis to specify a destination port and IP address. The method allows them to complete the TCP handshake without having to store any values, which takes time and resources. "We can then say that we want to establish X number of TCP connections on that address and that we want to use this attack type, and it does it," Lee said.

  3. Re:Pfffft by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 4, Informative

    What? WinME was simply repackaged Win98. Windows _NT_ was built by David Cutler, on a VMS foundation rather than a DOS foundation, because Cutler was one of the core authors of VMS and there were some fascinating lawsuits about his duplicating his old VMS work for Microsoft.

  4. DON'T PANIC! by collinstocks · · Score: 4, Informative

    If you are running Ubuntu 8.04, you probably aren't vulnerable (or at least I am not). See if you get what I got in the terminal:

    collin@collin:~$ cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_syncookies
    0
    collin@collin:~$

  5. Outpost24 by mrhoodie · · Score: 4, Informative

    You can find more information at my friends blog http://blog.robertlee.name/ he is one of the researchers at http://www.outpost24.com/ that discovered this vulnerability together with Jack Louis. This is probably the best place to find links for intervies, other articles and keep yourself updated with this issue. They will among other things present this at T2 in Finland this friday http://www.t2.fi/schedule/2008/#speech8

  6. How this really SEEMS to work... by nweaver · · Score: 4, Informative

    The observation: You can use a SYN-cookie like trick on the client side as well for an attacker:

    You send SYNs where the initial seq # = H(sip, dip, sport, dport).

    Now when you get a SYN/ACK back, you can send the ACK to complete the handshake. You can use the ACK field back from the server to know where you are in what data to send (just subtract the value from the initial sequence # to know what the next piece of data to send is), and you can know where you are in the received data (if necessary) by storing just the server's initial sequence #.

    As a result, you can now interact with the server without having to maintain ANY TCP session state, or just a single word (the server's initial seq #), allowing the attacker to use vastly fewer resources to tie up server resources.

    On one hand, this is a cool trick, and potentially useful for an attacker: if you have only a couple of machines and really want to tie up server resources, you can use this quite quickly.

    But OTOH, attackers already have so many zombie resources that this really doesn't necessarily buy the attacker all that much: If you have 10K machines banging on a server, the 10K machines have a good 2000x more state than the servers. So who cares about stateholding requirements on the zombie side? Thus I think its only really relevant if you wanted to DOS google, akamai, or some similar very-high-resource infrastructure.

    And as the attacker can't SPOOF packets with this (it needs to see the SYN/ACK), the zombies can be filtered if the DOS is detected and the attacker's identified as well.

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  7. Computing SYN cookies? by The+Famous+Brett+Wat · · Score: 5, Informative

    Sockstress computes and stores so-called client-side SYN cookies

    This isn't supposed to be possible. SYN cookies are supposed to contain at least 24 bits worth of entropy, produced by running a server-side secret through a one-way hashing function. You can easily obtain a SYN cookie by performing the initial SYN with the server. A SYN+ACK comes back which contains the SYN cookie (as the initial sequence number). The cookie so received is unique per TCP connection (IP address and port numbers at both ends), and valid only for a limited time. The server side does not maintain any state information until the cookie is returned in the client's ACK.

    If they are actually computing SYN cookies on the client side, it's evidence of a weak SYN cookie implementation. Computation of the cookie should be infeasible without access to the server-side secret. Of course, this may be a case of sloppy reporting. As usual, we aren't given all the details of this earth-shattering vulnerability. We are simply left to guess whether these folks (and those that report on them) know what they're talking about or not.

    They could be guessing cookies, and that would explain the "it will hurt intermediate systems" excuse they used for not demonstrating it, since they'd need to flood the peer TCP with millions of randomly-guessed initial sequence numbers. Incidentally, if this is a TCP SYN-flood attack of this sort, the "after effects" they mention have to do with the fact that all the TCP connections must time out naturally -- a process which might take several minutes per connection, depending on the configuration of the listening server application. The process is naturally limited by bandwidth and the size of the TCP state table: you have to be able to send successful fake ACKs fast enough to fill the TCP state table. All the usual mitigations for TCP SYN floods apply, such as increasing the state table size and reducing the timeout for open but idle connections.

    It's not at all clear that this is any worse than the kind of DDoS attack that a typical botnet can unleash. In that case, you get thousands of perfectly real TCP connections from multiple addresses almost simultaneously. So maybe this attack doesn't require a botnet, but I don't see that it's a big new threat (as I've described it).

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  8. Re:fearmongering by flosofl · · Score: 4, Informative

    Dude, did you just tell one of the guys who discovered this issue to *not* post links to his blog which may contain relevant information? I mean I'd understand if his blog had a ton of advertisements or something. But it's pretty much just blog entries and that's it.

    Weird.

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    "This calls for a very special blend of psychology and extreme violence" - Vyvyan "The Young Ones"
  9. Mod Parent Dow; Not a fix! by rtfa-troll · · Score: 5, Informative

    Now we see that a little bit of knowledge can be a dangerous thing.

    The point that's in the grandparent's post is not that your own syn-cookies can be used against you. Syn cookies on your server are doing the right thing and are protecting you against normal syn floods.

    What's happening in this attack is that the client side (the attacker) is using their own syn cookies to store information about connections on your server (instead of in their own memory). This allows them to handle more connections than otherwise. Unfortunately there is nothing you can do to stop this. They are using required behavior of the TCP stack for their information storage.

    Some mitigation strategies that I can think of

    The parents "fix" will make things slightly worse during this attack since turning off syn-cookies will mean that your server will have to track even more TCP connections. Not just those that are active, but also those that have just started. Of course, it will also make the new attack pointless since they can just do a normal syn-flood instead.

    • Increase the TCP connection storage on your server to such a size that the DOS becomes impractical
    • Ensure that TCP connections time out after some time if they have not been authorised to a particular user
    • Impose a resource limit per authorised user on connections. Impose a separate resource limit on all non authorised users which will not interfere with authorised use.
    • Use IPSEC to authorise all incoming connections / alternatively prioritise authorised sessions.

    The best current full fix I can think of is to use IPSEC and ensure that all incoming connections are authorised. Your own users will still be able to DOS you, but at least you can hunt them down.

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  10. Re:Pfffft by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 4, Informative

    Piffle yourself. The memory management, as an example, was definitely theft from DEC.

    David was one of the three team leads on Starlet, which became VMS. And yes, according to DEC personnel of that era, he was very much a technical lead, if not the technical lead.