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New Denial-of-Service Attack Is a Killer

ancientribe writes "Hacker RSnake blogs about a newly discovered and deadly denial-of-service attack that could well be the next big threat to the Internet as a whole. It goes after a broadband Internet connection and KOs machines on the other end such that they stay offline even after the attack is over. It spans various systems, too: the pair of Swedish researchers who found it have already contacted firewall, operating system, and Web-enabled device vendors whose products are vulnerable to this attack." Listen to the interview (MP3) — English starts a few minutes in — and you might find yourself convinced that we have a problem. The researchers claim that they have been able to take down every system with a TCP/IP stack that they have attempted; and they know of no fix or workaround.

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  1. fearmongering by passthecrackpipe · · Score: 5, Insightful

    While it is pretty interesting, and disturbing, we are once again faced with a "The Internet Will Cease To Exist And Your Brain Will Explode" vulnerability. We dont know exactly how it works, we dont know exactly what to do to stop it, fixes are not available, and we are all doomed. The podcast goes into enough detail about how they discovered it to be replicated by skilled evildoers without too much trouble, but nobody knows how long, easy or invasive a fix is going to be.

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    1. Re:fearmongering by MyLongNickName · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Sorry, but your entire argument is shot down by TFA. For those of you too lazy to read it, this gem "Robert and Jack are smart dudes. I've known them for years," clearly shows that your argument is moot. The author has known them for years from (presumably) T-Ball league. How can you argue with that?

      (this having to wait 5 minutes between posts is a pain in the ass. Anyone else stuck with this restriction?)

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    2. Re:fearmongering by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Sorry, but your entire argument is shot down by TFA. For those of you too lazy to read it, this gem "Robert and Jack are smart dudes. I've known them for years," clearly shows that your argument is moot.

      Seriously....just saying "Yeah, these two dudes I know can break the whole Internet. Trust me. I've known them a long time." is just completely lame and useless.

      The article is nothing more than fear mongering and fudfudfud (please tag appropriately). Unless there's something to the interview beyond "I know how to break the Interwebs!!!", I'm from Missouri on this one.

    3. Re:fearmongering by Yvanhoe · · Score: 4, Insightful

      (this having to wait 5 minutes between posts is a pain in the ass. Anyone else stuck with this restriction?)

      Yes, limiting the possibilities to comment is clearly a bad idea. /. summaries have always been quite bad for as long I can remember it, but all the informational value is in the comments. Where else can you see a fearmongering article, people making some obvious remarks, getting insightful retorts to finally end on a +5 comment coming from a guy working in the lab TFA mentions ?

      Slashdot, don't fear posters. Your moderation system filters spam (and as*holeness) with enough efficiency, don't add nagging features !

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  2. Transcript by commanderfoxtrot · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Do people really have time to listen to podcasts unless they are commuting?

    Is there a transcript???

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  3. Re:Go for it, take on my machine! by erayd · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Unless it's a generic vulnerability in the TCP spec, in which case almost every implementation of it would be vulnerable - including all those Linux machines. Linux is not some magical shield, it takes responsible use to keep it secure.

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  4. Re:Go for it, take on my machine! by apathy+maybe · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Of course Linux is not a magical shield. But having a diverse eco-system is known to protect against many attacks.

    One of the reasons stories about how the banana is going extinct come up every few years is because the "modern" banana that most people in the over developed world can buy, are all clones! One disease can attack all the plants in the same manner.

    In the same way, computers that have the same OS tend to be vulnerable to the same attack. Because there are a lot more OSs based around Linux (and BSD), people running these OSs are less vulnerable, because they are in a diverse eco-system. Especially when these kernels and the user-land tools are FLOSS.

    As such, yes, it maybe a generic vulnerability in the TCP spec. (though how likely is that?), however, it is not specified, which is why I asked if it did affect *nix.

    If nothing else, due to the nature of FLOSS, the attack could quickly be coded around as soon as it is known, and then pushed out to many many people running auto-update systems (such as Debian, Ubuntu and similar). (Even if that breaks the spec.)

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