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GIMP 2.6 Released

Enselic writes "The GIMP developers are proud to announce the release of GIMP 2.6. The release notes start with: 'GIMP 2.6 is an important release from a development point of view. It features changes to the user interface addressing some often received complaints, and a tentative integration of GEGL, the graph based image processing library that will eventually bring high bit-depth and non-destructive editing to GIMP.' The notes go on to say the toolbox menubar has been removed, the toolbox and docks now are utility windows, it's now possible to pan beyond the image border, the freehand select tool has been enhanced to support polygonal selections, and much more."

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  1. I just got 2.4! by AKAImBatman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Man, just after I updated 2.2 to 2.4! @#@!#*!!!

    One area I hope the GIMP team focuses on in the future is font rendering. I absolutely love working with GIMP, but the fonts still don't come out as nice as they do in Photoshop. I'm not graphical design savvy enough to know why, only that my fonts look like crud when compared to the smooth output of Photoshop.

    Other than that, GIMP is an incredible product. Anyone doing casual graphical editing, just learning, or otherwise does not need the top-end features of Photoshop will be well-served by this package. Kudos for doing such an incredible job, guys! :-)

    1. Re:I just got 2.4! by elrous0 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      People laugh. But when I taught a web class for my company last year, that name kept me from using this as the recommended graphic program of choice (used Photoshop elements instead). It's typical developer thoughtlessness to use a name that most people associate with a disturbing scene in the movie Pulp Fiction for an application that supposedly wants to be taken seriously. You can have the greatest application in the world, but if you name it "FUCK" you're going to be spending every subsequent Thanksgiving sitting at the kid's table.

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    2. Re:I just got 2.4! by oogoliegoogolie · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Gimp developers don't care what you think. People have been very vocal in requesting this product undergo a name (as well as UI!)change to something less silly, childish, and stupid since it came out in the late 90's, and they haven't done it so it ain't going to happen now. GIMP is destined to always conjure images about either: a) that disturbing dude from pulp fiction as you mentioned, or b) children who have some affliction or disability that causes them difficulty when walking.

    3. Re:I just got 2.4! by LWATCDR · · Score: 3, Insightful

      So call it by it's full name. Gnu Image Manipulation Program.
      If you must rename the icon.
      I am pretty sure that Photoshop Elements is actually called PSE or some such thing.

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    4. Re:I just got 2.4! by Dionysus · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Exactly. So until Linux user's develop a hint of marketing sense, don't call it the year of the Linux desktop

      Last I checked, GIMP wasn't a Linux product. It is also for Windows, MAC, *BSD.

      Drop the lame prefixes: k ,g , gn -- It's not clever, it's not intuitive. It's fucking stupid.

      As soon as Apple drops the lame i prefix, and Sun drops the j prefix.

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    5. Re:I just got 2.4! by LearnToSpell · · Score: 5, Insightful

      There is a happy medium, where a programs function can be implied by a relevant name:
      Winamp

      [a digital current measuring program]

      Photoshop
      [an ecommerce program for selling Polaroids]

      Yahoo Messenger
      [a yodel-to-text converter for arranging bicycle deliveries].

    6. Re:I just got 2.4! by tolan-b · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Hate to feed the troll but...

      "Drop the lame prefixes"

      iPhoto, iWork, iPod, iMac, iPhone.

      Prefixes are far from unique to Linux. Also, how long is it since you looked at Gnome apps? I can't of any that are "gSomething" or "gnSomething". Plenty are called "Gnome Something", but how is that different from the hundreds of "Windows Something" or 'WinSomething"? 'Winamp', 'Winzip', 'Windows messenger', 'Winrar'. Uhuh.

      "This basically goes to show that the Linux desktop folk know they're names are completely dissociative, so they have to spell out exactly what each one does."

      Skype, Flash, Adium, Daemon Tools. *Most* desktop apps have random names that don't mean anything, the only difference is that Ubuntu added labels to the names other people gave their apps to make it clearer.

    7. Re:I just got 2.4! by shiftless · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The last time I loaded Ubuntu (5 minutes ago), the menu looked more like this:

      Applications
      |
      | ...
      | Graphics
      | |
      | | F-Spot Photo Manager
      | | GIMP Image Editor
      | | gThumb Image Viewer
      | | ...
      |
      | ...
      | Sound and Video
      | |
      | | Audio CD Extractor
      | | Movie player
      | | Sound Recorder
      | | ...

      How much clearer can it possibly get?

  2. CYMK by Abreu · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A question, is there CYMK color separation support already?

    Sorry if this was implemented already, I havent checked on the Gimp in a while.

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    1. Re:CYMK by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The default response to "does open source software do X?" is "you don't really need to do X."

      I've gotten that response so many times, I can't count them. "Can open source apps paste spreadsheet cells into an email?" "Is there an open source app to do Gantt charts?" (Disclaimer: these are old examples; for all I know these scenarios work perfectly now.)

      The second-most common is, "oh, you must have something weird." I usually get this one when I install a driver that claims to run some model of hardware, and then my hardware still doesn't work. "Sure, IVTV says it supports Hauppauge WinPVR 150 cards, but it doesn't work." "Oh, you must have something weird, maybe Hauppauge changed their chipset."

      Whatever. I don't like the whole "pass-the-buck" culture.

  3. Re:I just love Gimp by Glytch · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I just love Gimp. But why does Gimp have to separate the windows like that? Can't it have everything as a multi-document all under one window?

    Because MDI interfaces are an obscenity before god, and implementing one should be a corporal offense. Let window management be handled by the window manager.

  4. Re:I just love Gimp by TheBig1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Can't it have everything as a multi-document all under one window?

    Please, no! Multiple windows are great for multiple monitors and / or multiple documents being edited at once. I can't stand programs which force you into one window. If you want, you can combine all the tool docks into one, and thus have just a document window and a tool window, but please don't force us to do so!

    Cheers

  5. Re:Any chance we can draw circles and boxes now by elrous0 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    A missing feature is still a missing feature, no matter the workaround. If someone was selling a car with no seatbelts, I wouldn't buy it just because someone pointed out I could make my own easily enough.

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  6. Re:It really didn't have this? by Medievalist · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Does he advertise projects he works on in his spare time as being comparable to Photoshop?

    I've never seen any "advertisements" for the Gimp anywhere. I guess I haven't been paying attention.

    That being said, the Gimp is comparable to Photoshop. You can compare anything to anything if you want, obviously. I myself enjoy comparing apples and oranges in my copious free time.

    More importantly the Gimp is a free alternative to Photoshop, with different strengths and weaknesses. Both products seem to have a hellish learning curve, so you would be foolish to abandon Photoshop if you are already invested in it, and I suspect it'd be equally foolish to start an investment in Photoshop today when there is a free alternative available.

  7. Re:Any chance we can draw circles and boxes now by clone53421 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No really I want GIMP to be able to do this.

    It can.

    Example: Take a family photograph and circle somebody. Or add a cartoon speech bubble.

    Circle somebody: Ellipse select tool, select an oval. Stroke selection. Choose a line style, you're done.

    Cartoon speech bubble: Ellipse selection, shift-lasso select the arrow (if you can't draw a straight enough line, convert to a path, edit the path to put an arrow in, then convert back to a selection). Fill with background colour using the paint tool (fill whole selection). Stroke selection, choose line style. Put the words in it with the text tool. If you're doing that a lot, make a generic text balloon and save it, then insert it as a layer when you need one.

    These things should be single step operations from the main control pane.

    Why? What's wrong with a 2-step operation? It's still relatively quick considering how often people want to do what you described (not very often; heck, the people who just want to do that generally get by with MS Paint).

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  8. Re:Any chance we can draw circles and boxes now by grumbel · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Why create entirely different "line", "rectangle", "polygon", and "ellipse" tools when "stroke selection" and "stroke path" do all of those -- and more?

    For one reason because they don't. Stroking a selection gives a rather ugly circles compared to a real circle tools, since to much information gets lost along the way. And of course also usability, lack of proper circle tools has been an issue for a decade and yet it is still not fixed and still continues to be an issue and the issue won't go away by pretending its not there. Name a good reason why Gimp shouldn't have a set of geometry tools. I frankly can't think of one. If somebody worries that the toolbox is getting crammed, just add a way to remove tools from it.

    All that aside, there is also a larger issue with the lack of those tools, namely that tools can't be plug-ins, so any new tool has to be done directly in Gimp and can't be supplied as an add-on. If they could be this issue would have already been fixed long ago.

  9. Re:Any chance we can draw circles and boxes now by Toonol · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Everybody else doesn't manage it just fine. I used GIMP for months before I figured that out. And I, just like the GP, am relatively intelligent and computer literate.

    It's not a complicated process, and it even makes a bit of sense, looking at it in hind-sight. But it is not intuitive. When practically every new user of a program has the same issue, the user may not be the problem. Maybe the process is fine, but it needs to be told to the user more clearly.

    I use GIMP nearly every day, and really like it. I'm a fan. I'm glad to see improvements.

  10. Re:It really didn't have this? by PitaBred · · Score: 5, Insightful

    For what 99% of people do with graphics, The GIMP DOES compete with Photoshop.

    Or is Linux not a competitor to Windows because it doesn't do everything Windows does (even though it does many things better)?

  11. Mod this man to Mount Olympus! by elrous0 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Sir, I wish I could mod you to infinity. That's one of OSS's biggest hurdles right now, keeping it locked out of mainstream awareness. OSS has great coders, but a real dearth of UI designers, technical writers, and basic marketing people. So you end up with coders (who think they don't need these people) designing great software that is rendered completely inaccessible by horrid UI's, poor to non-existent documentation, and stupid marketing moves (like this kind of poorly-thought-out naming).

    Just look at 99% of OSS websites, done by coders who have no idea how to present their software to anyone but other coders--leading to my tip:

    • The first page of your application's webpage should explain what the software *IS* and *HOW TO USE IT*, not just provide a long list of your bug-fixes.
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    SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.