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GIMP 2.6 Released

Enselic writes "The GIMP developers are proud to announce the release of GIMP 2.6. The release notes start with: 'GIMP 2.6 is an important release from a development point of view. It features changes to the user interface addressing some often received complaints, and a tentative integration of GEGL, the graph based image processing library that will eventually bring high bit-depth and non-destructive editing to GIMP.' The notes go on to say the toolbox menubar has been removed, the toolbox and docks now are utility windows, it's now possible to pan beyond the image border, the freehand select tool has been enhanced to support polygonal selections, and much more."

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  1. I just got 2.4! by AKAImBatman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Man, just after I updated 2.2 to 2.4! @#@!#*!!!

    One area I hope the GIMP team focuses on in the future is font rendering. I absolutely love working with GIMP, but the fonts still don't come out as nice as they do in Photoshop. I'm not graphical design savvy enough to know why, only that my fonts look like crud when compared to the smooth output of Photoshop.

    Other than that, GIMP is an incredible product. Anyone doing casual graphical editing, just learning, or otherwise does not need the top-end features of Photoshop will be well-served by this package. Kudos for doing such an incredible job, guys! :-)

    1. Re:I just got 2.4! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      A more needed update....

      SOMEONE PLEASE FORK THE PROJECT AND GIVE IT A NEW NAME!

      My Point of sales machine died a few days ago, and the tech asked if I had installed anything on it. I told him that I loaded up "the gnu image manipulation program" just to avoid saying "GIMP". Can't we rename it to something better?

      I suggest we use: GNU Photo & Image Manipulation Program.

    2. Re:I just got 2.4! by elrous0 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      People laugh. But when I taught a web class for my company last year, that name kept me from using this as the recommended graphic program of choice (used Photoshop elements instead). It's typical developer thoughtlessness to use a name that most people associate with a disturbing scene in the movie Pulp Fiction for an application that supposedly wants to be taken seriously. You can have the greatest application in the world, but if you name it "FUCK" you're going to be spending every subsequent Thanksgiving sitting at the kid's table.

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    3. Re:I just got 2.4! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      I experienced the same problem with crappy looking fonts, specifically when printing. I have gotten around this by changing the ppi to 300 (the default is 72) when creating a new image. This has made a huge difference and the fonts look much better. The option is under the advanced section when you create a new image.

    4. Re:I just got 2.4! by oogoliegoogolie · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Gimp developers don't care what you think. People have been very vocal in requesting this product undergo a name (as well as UI!)change to something less silly, childish, and stupid since it came out in the late 90's, and they haven't done it so it ain't going to happen now. GIMP is destined to always conjure images about either: a) that disturbing dude from pulp fiction as you mentioned, or b) children who have some affliction or disability that causes them difficulty when walking.

    5. Re:I just got 2.4! by street+struttin' · · Score: 5, Funny

      lol, then you could say, "I just installed my G-PIMP Upgrayedd. The extra d is for a double dose of my pimping."

      Fantastic.

    6. Re:I just got 2.4! by .sig · · Score: 5, Funny

      But does it have electrolytes? It's what artists crave!

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    7. Re:I just got 2.4! by LearnToSpell · · Score: 5, Insightful

      There is a happy medium, where a programs function can be implied by a relevant name:
      Winamp

      [a digital current measuring program]

      Photoshop
      [an ecommerce program for selling Polaroids]

      Yahoo Messenger
      [a yodel-to-text converter for arranging bicycle deliveries].

    8. Re:I just got 2.4! by tolan-b · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Hate to feed the troll but...

      "Drop the lame prefixes"

      iPhoto, iWork, iPod, iMac, iPhone.

      Prefixes are far from unique to Linux. Also, how long is it since you looked at Gnome apps? I can't of any that are "gSomething" or "gnSomething". Plenty are called "Gnome Something", but how is that different from the hundreds of "Windows Something" or 'WinSomething"? 'Winamp', 'Winzip', 'Windows messenger', 'Winrar'. Uhuh.

      "This basically goes to show that the Linux desktop folk know they're names are completely dissociative, so they have to spell out exactly what each one does."

      Skype, Flash, Adium, Daemon Tools. *Most* desktop apps have random names that don't mean anything, the only difference is that Ubuntu added labels to the names other people gave their apps to make it clearer.

  2. CYMK by Abreu · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A question, is there CYMK color separation support already?

    Sorry if this was implemented already, I havent checked on the Gimp in a while.

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    1. Re:CYMK by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 5, Informative

      CMYK support for the GIMP - Why you might not need CMYK support in the GIMP.

      Separate+ CMYK separations plugin for GIMP -- And if you really need it, get this. Very nice. Supports ICC color profiles.

  3. The future of GIMP by larry+bagina · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Let's be honest here. I like GIMP, I generally prefer it over photoshop (for what I do). But it's not photoshop and it gets shit on for that reason. The solution: GIMP should ditch GTK/GDK and use GNUStep/Cocoa. This provides a number of advantages - free CMYK and pantone support, better font rendering, an improved UI, and direct access to artistic types. Photoshop on OS X is a dog -- the look and feel doesn't match and Adobe won't provide a 64-bit version until CS 5 (if then). An OS X native GIMP would kick it's ass.

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  4. Re:Windows version still lagging. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    The 2.6.0 installer for Windows is basically ready. It just needs a little more testing and should become available in a day or two.

  5. Re:It really didn't have this? by MightyYar · · Score: 5, Funny

    Welcome to 1985 [wikipedia.org], GIMP developers...

    Care to point us at a project you work on in your spare time so that we can mock it?

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  6. Re:I just love Gimp by Glytch · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I just love Gimp. But why does Gimp have to separate the windows like that? Can't it have everything as a multi-document all under one window?

    Because MDI interfaces are an obscenity before god, and implementing one should be a corporal offense. Let window management be handled by the window manager.

  7. Re:I just love Gimp by TheBig1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Can't it have everything as a multi-document all under one window?

    Please, no! Multiple windows are great for multiple monitors and / or multiple documents being edited at once. I can't stand programs which force you into one window. If you want, you can combine all the tool docks into one, and thus have just a document window and a tool window, but please don't force us to do so!

    Cheers

  8. Re:It really didn't have this? by MightyYar · · Score: 5, Informative

    Does he advertise projects he works on in his spare time as being comparable to Photoshop?

    Where does GIMP advertise? And where do they claim to be comparable to Photoshop? In fact, I found
    this document, which has the "Gimp Vision", part of which includes:

    What GIMP is not:

            * GIMP is not MS Paint or Adobe Photoshop

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  9. Re:It really didn't have this? by Medievalist · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Does he advertise projects he works on in his spare time as being comparable to Photoshop?

    I've never seen any "advertisements" for the Gimp anywhere. I guess I haven't been paying attention.

    That being said, the Gimp is comparable to Photoshop. You can compare anything to anything if you want, obviously. I myself enjoy comparing apples and oranges in my copious free time.

    More importantly the Gimp is a free alternative to Photoshop, with different strengths and weaknesses. Both products seem to have a hellish learning curve, so you would be foolish to abandon Photoshop if you are already invested in it, and I suspect it'd be equally foolish to start an investment in Photoshop today when there is a free alternative available.

  10. Re:It's still essentially 8-bit. by photomonkey · · Score: 5, Informative

    Actually, that's not necessarily the case.

    I am a professional commercial photographer and editorial photojournalist. Sure, CS3 is still my editor of choice, but the GIMP is moving ever-closer to being a viable option.

    There is not a single application I can think of where someone working as a photojournalist would ever need more than what the GIMP offers.

    File submission standard for newsprint is still 10 inches on the long axis @ 200 ppi. Files are then compressed to clock in at betweek 650kb-900kb. sRGB colorspace and 8 bits-per-pixel are more than enough. Pre-press does the CYMK conversion and Web crop, usually.

    The level of editing (painting) done to editorial photos is minimal by standard ethical practice; and so really the tool need only be able to crop, resample, dust spot and adjust the exposure.

    In fact, for funzies, I just did a complete start-to-finish editorial shoot post in GIMP 2.4. The EXIF/XMP/IPTC stuff hurts bad (please, please, please, please FIX THIS), but the actual post went fine.

    Making stuff screen-ready can easily be accomplished in the GIMP as well.

    I don't have a whole lot of experience with making multimedia presentations (audio slideshows, etc.) for Web and screen display in the GIMP/Linux, so I'll leave that alone for now.

    On the commercial, every-photo-is-a-painting side, the GIMP might be a bit of a hindrance. The more advanced layering, color conversions, spot toning, etc. typically deployed in, say, advertising post is probably more than can be reasonably handled by the GIMP.

    Admittedly, some of that sentiment may come from my being a lot more comfortable in Photoshop than GIMP.

    Generally speaking, some of the resizing plugins and effects plugins that we have come to count on are not available for GIMP, and even if the same thing can be accomplished with a different set of tools, we're disinclined to learn them.

    Keep in mind that more than half the professional photographers out there are self-employed, and the time required to learn a new toolset can be killer.

    The GIMP has come a long way since I first started playing with Linux about 10 years ago.

    It even plays fairly nicely with RAW files from my cameras.

    Today, I have it (under Hardy Heron) installed on my non-production workstation, and have no doubt that in years to come, it may very well become a full-fledged alternative to Photoshop.

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  11. Re:It really didn't have this? by PitaBred · · Score: 5, Insightful

    For what 99% of people do with graphics, The GIMP DOES compete with Photoshop.

    Or is Linux not a competitor to Windows because it doesn't do everything Windows does (even though it does many things better)?

  12. Re:It's still essentially 8-bit. by Animaether · · Score: 5, Informative

    I think that what GP is getting at is that...
    - Unless you're shooting RAW (DNG, 16-bit TIFF, EXR or whatever your camera supports there), you're not going to get those 12 bits anyway.
    - Not too long ago, Photoshop didn't do 16bpc itself.. and it still doesn't on a ton of commands. That never stopped anybody from processing photos in the past, why should it now? Clearly it's nice if you -can- work in 16bit, but it's not going to stop hundreds of thousands of people from working with photographs for the sole reason that 16bit is unavailable.

    In short, GP's parent poster acts a bit like an audiophile, claiming that every non-goldplated-connector is completely useless for listening to music the moment goldplated-connectors became available.

    Oh, and I'm a graphics professional - I work with 32bpc imagery all the time as sometimes that's what you need to run film footage through extensive colorgrading processes without incurring losses.. so yes, I know very *very* well what the advantages are.. and I certainly agree that Ol' Gimpo needs at least 16bpc, but preferable 32bpc, workflow. ( Cursed lack of support for Cinepaint. )