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Sysadmin Steals Almost 20,000 Pieces of Computer Equipment

coondoggie writes "Now this is some serious computer theft. We're talking 19,709 pieces of stolen computer equipment from the US Naval Research Laboratory in Washington, DC. The theft included everything from PCs and printer toner to hard drives, software and other office equipment amounting to over $120,000, according to court documents and published reports."

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  1. Impressive... most impressive... or not... by Xylaan · · Score: 5, Insightful
    That would be more impressive, until you realize the average value of each piece is $6.08.

    So my guess is a few big ticket items, and then lots and lots and LOTS of some small item.

    1. Re:Impressive... most impressive... or not... by JustKidding · · Score: 5, Funny

      Like, a big box of CD-Rs or something. If he had stolen a single CPU, they might as well have claimed that he stole more than 40 million transistors.

    2. Re:Impressive... most impressive... or not... by LordKronos · · Score: 5, Funny

      No, it was just a couple PCs. They're just using the RIAA/CD-R theory to say that, since it was a couple really fast computers, it was the equivalent of thousands of 386's.

    3. Re:Impressive... most impressive... or not... by mlush · · Score: 5, Funny

      My thoughts exactly. Was this a case of 19,000 pencils and then a few PCs?

      Couldn't be, were talking 'military spec' pencils which cost at least $200 each

    4. Re:Impressive... most impressive... or not... by Shemilt · · Score: 5, Funny

      "... Federal investigators say they have nothing to go on."

    5. Re:Impressive... most impressive... or not... by mlush · · Score: 5, Funny

      Best way to sneak small things out of work is to (1) sell it on ebay and then (2) mail it while (3) pocketing the money. (Like that guy on MASH who mailed a jeep piece-by-piece.) Nobody examines packages closely.

      There's the old joke about the guy who takes a wheel barrow of straw out of the yard every day, the security guard knows he's stealing something and searches it every day, but find only straw! Years later they bump into each other and the guard asks now its too late to do anything about it... what were you stealing? and the guy grins and says 'wheelbarrows'.

  2. The investigation widens... by waldonova · · Score: 5, Funny

    In further news, a source inside the Pentagon reports that 17 pencils have been reported missing over the last three months. "These are critical communication devices, built to mil spec standards. They have the potential to inflict injury to an untrained operator. The Pentagon takes these communications security breaches quite seriously, and we will be looking for further funding to study this National Vulnerability."

    1. Re:The investigation widens... by waldonova · · Score: 5, Funny

      No, I've never met the Vice President but I'm sure that he is aware of this situation.

  3. Excuse me ... by erlehmann · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... I believe you still have my err, uh, stapler.

  4. Office Equipment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    wants to be free!

  5. Re:Your Rights Online? by jeffmeden · · Score: 5, Funny

    And then what does it still have to do with YRO, unless he stole it over SSH under the guise of "free (as in computer parts) speech"...

  6. Simple solution. Ask by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I got a very nice PC here. Did I buy it? No, it was surplus and going unused and gathering dust with old equipment. I had asked for the old equipment, a couple of xeon servers. They said, "sure, take it". I pointed out that this PC was in fact brand new, but it was surplus so if I just shut up about it it saved paperwork.

    The servers were refurbished and donated to a charity as their office servers and the surplus PC has been my desktop for over a year.

    If you never ask, the answer will always be no. On the whole, people are nice, if only you are nice to them. Would you deny someone a piece of old equipment if they asked nicely? Then why should someone deny it to you?

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    1. Re:Simple solution. Ask by viking099 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's a bad idea to give away excess merchandise to employees though. It can encourage people to intentionally overbuy products simply because they know it will be given to them when it doesn't sell.

      A better solution is to have someone box it all up and donate it, assuming it's something worth donating.

    2. Re:Simple solution. Ask by C_L_Lk · · Score: 5, Interesting

      My old manager at my last place of employment was just like this "throw it in the dumpster" - surplus was all to go in the dumpster that was designated for hazardous/electronic waste and go to the scrap yard and be chopped up. Hundreds of monitors, CPU's, Cisco routers, hubs and switches, thousands upon thousands of feet of Cat5 cable, you name it.

      However, said manager also told us all "the lid on the dumpster isn't locked and what happens to its contents when I'm gone home is out of my control" *hint hint* - so most of the IT staff, myself included, were pretty careful in stacking things in the dumpster all nice and neat and organized into "waste" and "not waste" - then we'd pick through it after hours for our own take. The next morning we would generally let it slip to the rest of the staff "there's leftover goodies in the dumpster - check it after work tonight".

      I'm sure in the end we saved the company many 10's of thousands of $ in disposal fees as I believe we paid close to $0.50/pound for electronics disposal. ($20 for one CRT monitor)

  7. Not unusual by djupedal · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I have a, eh, 'friend'....that used to work for M******** Aircraft many years ago in Long Beach. He had full area access due to his job, and that part was unusual, but it meant he could come and go as he pleased - his job also meant driving a van full of equipment on a regular basis.

    His method was to first move equipment around inside the plant, waiting to see if anyone noticed. When the stuff went unnoticed for a period of time (say after an audit), he would load up and drive off base to his home, where the van would be unloaded.

    This went on for years and he eventually changed jobs.

    It was almost three years later that investigators came to his new home, hundreds of miles away. When they walked up to his door, they could see the open garage that was stuffed to the ceiling with everything from o'scopes to monitors to cameras...on and on and on.

    In the end, the company got it all back (he kept and took very good care of everything), and only charged him with theft of one almost worthless item, since that was the only piece they felt like parting with long enough to prosecute. They later told him they were shocked to find him with so much stuff...they said their research told them it would take more than a dozen people to pilfer so much equipment.

    1. Re:Not unusual by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Nope, not unusual at all. I used to work with a guy who told me in detail several times (unasked) exactly how you could get equipment out of the building (move it over here to the freight area, wait until after hours to take it to the basement, at this time of day the back doors are opened, so you can then pull a car in, etc etc). I had recently been put in charge of an equipment audit and there were several pieces of equipment missing (some of which this guy had previously shown a keen interest in). When I brought the issue up with my boss I was told "Oh no, he would never do something like that." Case closed. No investigation, nothing. I received a slight reprimand for even suggesting something like that might happen. I quit shortly after that.

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  8. Re:$6.08 per item! by sqldr · · Score: 5, Funny

    on a related note, does anyone wanna buy a box of paperclips?

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  9. That's actually a "low" loss. by mlwmohawk · · Score: 5, Interesting

    No one is saying that stuff walking away is a good thing, but 19+ thousand items at about $6.00 (est) average per item is typical office flow.

    Listen, workers often bring things "into" work that are not counted, and some bring things back. I wouldn't even call it "quid pro quo," I'd call it humans working as humans do. We all do it, nothing bad mind you, I'll burn a DVD of stuff and bring it to work. I'll use my laptop because the company I may be working doesn't want to buy me one if I don't need it.

    We are not machines, humans become "part" of the organizations to which they belong, and without malice "communal" supplies and things just get used.

    Also, in a large technology environment, there is so much stuff that either gets tossed or walks. Think about keyboards, how many people order a cordless keyboard/mouse for their PCs? Well, what happens to the OEM keyboard/mouse? I'll tell you, it sits in a closet until it gets tossed or walks.

    We setup a big data center a number of years back, we ordered 300 Dell servers, each and every damn one came with a keyboard and a mouse. We had a small mountain of brand-new mice and keyboards we didn't know what to do with. Dell would ship without them, and we couldn't get rid of them. So, we left them in a pile, and about 50% walked away.

    Then there are hard disks, you upgrade a 100G hard disk to a 250G hard disk, 250g to 500g, what do you do with the old ones? They, too, sit in a closet. They have "book" value but no actual usable value. Computers, jeez, you can't get rid of them, but after 18 months they have "book" value but no practical resale value. It costs more in man-power to dispose of a 2 years old computer than it does to buy a new one. So it sits in a corner or a closet until someone asks "will that be missed?" and the response is "its just taking up space, I know nothing."

    Your "human community" will use these things. The books will show a loss, but no real loss has occurred. Bonus! You get to deduct the loss, blame pilfering, and in the end stuff useless to organization stops taking up space and gets used, employees are better off, and there's room in the closets.

    This is actually the best way. If they "gave" it to the employees, it would mean paperwork and taxes. This way, its just "lost" so sad. Everyone knows it, everyone does it, and this article is just a CYA piece.

  10. Re:More likely ex-military spec by norpan · · Score: 5, Funny

    There are 1 kinds of people in this world, those who start indexing with 0, and thouse who don't?

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