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Toxic Fumes From Mac Pros?

Fanboi Killa writes "Apple is investigating damning claims, published in a leading French newspaper, that its computers emit a toxic odor containing chemicals including the cancer-causing benzene. Apple has not denied the accusations. Its spokesman, Bill Evans, told Macworld the company had not found any evidence to support the claim but Apple would continue to investigate. Posts on Apple's own discussion boards suggest the Mac maker knew about potentially toxic odors being linked to its computers as early as December last year."

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  1. Don't worry by Stele · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's just the smell of smug.

    1. Re:Don't worry by MightyYar · · Score: 5, Funny

      It's just the smell of smug.

      God help us all if someone gets an Apple computer anywhere near a Prius.

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    2. Re:Don't worry by luton · · Score: 5, Funny

      What I didn't realise was that Apple was into the Cloud Computing model

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    3. Re:Don't worry by Hal_Porter · · Score: 5, Funny

      There is a Prius in our parking lot with an "EARTH" sticker and an Apple logo stuck on the back.

      Stick a McCain / Palin bumper sticker on it.

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    4. Re:Don't worry by The+Moof · · Score: 5, Funny

      "Hi, I'm a PC, and I won't murder you..."

  2. Not MacBooks by adamwright · · Score: 5, Informative

    If there's any truth to it, then I'm fairly sure this only applies to MacPros (see http://blogs.zdnet.com/Apple/?p=2319).

    1. Re:Not MacBooks by orclevegam · · Score: 5, Informative

      He didn't mean the MacBookPro (MBP), he meant Mac Pro, you know, the big desktop systems, one of these.

      Seems there might be something to the report, but it's too early to say for sure. If it's correct then the problem is most likely related to either a protective coating applied to the motherboard, or possible some plastic pieces on the inside of the case (my money would be on the coating though).

      So, to re-iterate, this isn't talking about any of the laptops, this is just the desktops, and even then not any of the iMacs (at least only Mac Pros have reported this problem).

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  3. Mac Pro not MacBooks! by tarkin · · Score: 5, Informative

    The article (and 'internets' hype) cleary state the problematic machines to be the Mac Pro (manufactured pre 2008)

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  4. Denied it? You bet. by HEbGb · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Saying "Apple has not denied the allegations" is sensationalistic, and doesn't belong in the summary. They "found no evidence", which, logically, is as strong a denial as can possibly be made.

  5. Amazing Discovery by archen · · Score: 5, Funny

    Source of the reality distortion field revealed!

  6. further studies by RemoWilliams84 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Further studies show that the fumes also cause a false sense of self worth and belonging as well as an elitist attitude.

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  7. Re:Denied it? You bet. by gunnk · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Read the article -- the whole thing is sensational.

    Even if the Greenpeace lab did detect chemicals with known health risks you still need to know the concentrations.

    You can get a all sorts of poisonous fumes coming off of anything with silicon caulk -- like aquariums -- especially when they get warm. Good stuff like toluene and ethylbenzene -- just not in concentrations that can actually harm you.

    I'm NOT trying to claim there is no problem. I'm just saying that there is nothing from the article to support that there IS a problem either -- just some anecdotes and a bit of scientifically illiterate journalism.

    With the strong smells coming off some machines, it is worth running a few tests to make sure that whatever is being emitted is not coming off at dangerous concentrations. In the meantime, though, not much to see here.

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  8. Where and how well did they look? by Animaether · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ``They "found no evidence", which, logically, is as strong a denial as can possibly be made.``

    No, as strong a denial as can possibly be made is "That is incorrect. It is not true. Our products do not emit the fumes referred to."

    All "found no evidence" means that where they looked, using their methods, they couldn't find the fumes.

    I'm not saying they -didn't- launch a thorough investigation, but there's nothing in particular to indicate that they did, either. Certainly there's people with complaints.. unless they're all making things up, I suspect that their "[continued] investigation" will dig up some particular packaging material or electronics supplier that happened to have a bad batch.

  9. Re:Wait... by dreamchaser · · Score: 5, Funny

    Maybe Mom won't let them smoke outside, you insensitive clod, so they are stuck in the basement. Besides, that awful burning thing in the sky is out there. I forget what they call it but it's fucking scary.

  10. No, it was me. Sorry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I was in the Apple store when I was in Paris recently, and I let an SBD rip.

  11. The dose is the poison by Sockatume · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That's all. Soap-box science is fond of the "X contains Y, Y causes Z!" without considering the exposure, which is the absolute be-all and end-all of toxicology. As a rule of thumb, the air around you contains non-zero amounts of anything you claim to mention. Your computer mouse could quite possibly have a whole molecule of deadly hydrogen fluoride on it. This will not kill you.

    100 spin points to Greenpeace for changing VOC from "volatile organic compound" to "volatile organic contaminant", by the way. It's nice to know that I can order in 99% pure bottles of "contaminant" from Sigma, or indeed that my air freshener is busily filling my surroundings with "contaminants".

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  12. Re:Denied it? You bet. by orclevegam · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I seem to recall Greenpeace going after Apple in the past as well. Haven't they been trying to slam Apple for not being ecologically friendly for years now? Not saying there isn't a problem, just saying Greenpeace isn't exactly a neutral party. Maybe one of these problem systems should be sent off to a lab that really is neutral and can say for sure whether there's a problem or not.

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  13. Re:Wait... by R2.0 · · Score: 5, Funny

    As God is my witness I went to wake up my 8 year old son and he wasn't cooperating, so I turned on the light and pulled the covers off him. "The Light! It burns ussss!" was his response.

    No more Rings Trilogy before bedtime.

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