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US House Adopts New Third-Party Web Site Rules

GovIT Geek writes to tell us that third-party websites will no longer be off limits for members of the US House, provided that they use it for "official purposes" and not personal, commercial, or campaign purposes. "The rules are seen by House Administration Chairman Robert Brady as a compromise between several proposals under consideration in recent months and are closely aligned with those circulated by the Senate Rules Committee last week. [...] 'These new guidelines are a step in the right direction for a Congress that has been behind the technological curve for too long,' Boehner said. 'By encouraging the use of emerging and established new media tools, Congress is sending the message that we want to speak to citizens, and receive feedback, in the most open and accessible manner possible.'"

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  1. In other words by snspdaarf · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The US House would rather relax the rules than spend the money for a server and feed that can take getting blasted by the angry constituents of, what, 437 Congresspersons?

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    1. Re:In other words by zappepcs · · Score: 2, Informative

      Altogether now, write your congressperson and ask them how they liked that slashdotting? Don't forget to tell them more is on the way. I look forward to hearing which congressional website is slashdotted today, and why.

  2. I didn't know that they were off-limits by ardle · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Even for personal purposes? What constitutes "personal"?
    If someone has, for example, a linkedIn account, do they have to close it if they get elected?

    1. Re:I didn't know that they were off-limits by EvanED · · Score: 3, Insightful

      My impression from the (relatively poorly written, especially on this point) article, and the fact that just about everyone has a campaign website, is just that linking from the official site is forboden. For instance, neither Obama nor McCain's site really makes it look like they are running for president. (I know both are Senators, not Representatives, but TFA says the new House rules are modeled off of the Senate ones, so I assume they have similar restrictions.)

  3. And in one of their conferences... by VeNoM0619 · · Score: 2, Funny

    And in one of their conferences...

    "We decided to not spend this on the budget, because VeNoM0619 says it sounds stupid, and is full of cooties."

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  4. As a member of the Green Party, by greenguy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I couldn't be happier that members of Congress are finally allowed to check third parties out. We have all kinds of fresh ideas they could appropriate.

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  5. Re:If they wanted to speak to citizens... by dreamchaser · · Score: 4, Informative

    They took them away from staffers, not Congresscritters. Had you read the link you provided you'd know that. Lots of junior staffers love to leak because it makes them feel important, and Her Majesty Pelosi didn't want any premature details of the negotiations coming out before they had a deal to screw us out of yet more money.

  6. REALLY! by arizwebfoot · · Score: 3, Funny

    Congress is sending the message that we want to speak to citizens, and receive feedback, in the most open and accessible manner possible.

    I think I just ruined another keyboard spitting out my coffee when I read that!

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  7. Re:If they wanted to speak to citizens... by ivandavidoff · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...Her Majesty Pelosi...

    Watch what you call her. Under the new rules, she can flame you and link to her post.

  8. Hopefully... by TheSpoom · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This could lead to us being able to get YouTube videos from Barack Obama if he's elected (adding to the 1400+ he and his campaign already have). Of course, John McCain just posts his campaign ads...

    Or maybe thinking open, ongoing communication from representatives is too idealistic.

    (Yes, I realize this applies to the House and not the Executive branch.)

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    1. Re:Hopefully... by Obfuscant · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Or maybe thinking open, ongoing communication from representatives is too idealistic.

      Maybe thinking that a YouTube video is open, ongoing communication is too idealistic.

  9. Re:If they wanted to speak to citizens... by CorporateSuit · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Crackberries in the hands of actual congresscritters is like a five year old having it. You get nothing but fantasy and gibberish with the occasional regurgitation of things they heard the grown ups say.

    You mean like when any suit gets ahold of a blackberry?

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  10. Franking regulations by AnotherScratchMonkey · · Score: 2, Interesting
    From the article:

    House Speaker Pelosi lauded the panel's effort to "modernize the antiquated franking regulations to address the realities of communications in the Internet age."

    Congressmen like to use government funds to push their next campaigns, and the campaigns of allies. Franking regulation is needed to stop such abuses.

  11. Misleading by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 5, Informative

    Even for personal purposes? What constitutes "personal"?

    If someone has, for example, a linkedIn account, do they have to close it if they get elected?

    No, that's not the point. They cannot do personal things in the guise of their office. For instance, President Bush, as a person, can be racist (an example I believe untrue, but sprang to mind quickly). As President, however, he has to have a non-racist approach to running the executive.

    The Rep. can maintained the linked in account, but without the offical presence of his office.

    This rule doesn't affect whether Rep. X can put up YouTube videos of "My crazy weekend". He always could. But now he can put up videos saying "The US House of Representatives did X" with him speaking as part of his job.

    But he must not use his those official communiques for personal, commerical or campaigning reasons.

    Similar to how my work might allow youtube to host our official videos (currently, our site does it), but I still couldn't connect me to my company for political or personal reasons (or other commercial ventures.)

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  12. Re:Seems unconstitutional by Obfuscant · · Score: 2, Informative
    ...any form of communications used by House members on any subject would be Constitutionally protected by Amendment 1.

    Oh for the days before McCain/Feingold.

    Do you wonder why so many politicians appear in ads saying "I approved this message"? They are legally required to do that. The 1st amendment protects freedom of speech. Requiring someone to say something is as abridging of freedom as preventing them.

    Do you know that there are prohibitions on political speech (ads) within a certain number of days before an election?

    Do you know that you cannot give more than a certain amount to a candidate every year? Money is a form of speech, isn't it? You can't use that money to buy airtime for him, either, which is a more direct representation of money being speech.

    Read the Wikipedia entry on campaign finance reform for a good summary. In short, politicians get limited in what they can do to try to avoid the appearance of impropriety. Doesn't work, but they try.

  13. Re:Seems unconstitutional by pavon · · Score: 3, Informative

    I haven't been able to find a copy of the actual rules, just a bunch of blogger rhetoric, but from what I understand this is more about the boundary between tax-payer funded media and privately funded media.

    The senate and house both have official websites with pages that each of the congresscritters can use for official business. Naturally, we don't want them using taxpayer money on their campaign since it gives an advantage to the incumbents, so campaigning is forbidden on this website. The argument was about whether linking to content from personal or campaigning sites from their official site should be allowed.

    There was also some concern about embedding third party content (like youtube videos) and whether it caused any technical/political/security concerns. The initial reaction was to ban embedding of third-party content (mostly because it because it wasn't understood). They are now lifting that ban with the clarification that anything on the official site must be official business even if it is hosted elsewhere.

    AFAIK they never prohibited congresscritters from having their own sites, or using any third-party sites - they just had to be separate from the official site, and not funded with tax money.

  14. Re:Seems unconstitutional by amRadioHed · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Money is a form of speech, isn't it?

    No. No it isn't.

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  15. Bad news for open government by Fooby · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Allowing representatives to use third-party services for official purposes, rather than government-run official IT infrastructure, enables them to hide their operations in plain sight. This is much like gov.palin@hotmail.com and Bush using RNC services while in office.

    With these new rules in place, official goverment records that should be open to scrutiny will be spread across thousands of privately-controlled servers. Oversight will be impossible.

  16. NIB! by Itninja · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I can see ways around this. Say you are a senator a want to sell an old typerwriter on Ebay...that's offical business I suppose.

    Item Specifics
    Material : Experience Type: Democrat
    Manufacturer : America Reproduction: Only in a good way
    Great vintage President Deluxe Vote Obama typewriter. The keys are in great shape but WE NEED CHANGE, needs ink cartridge,......

    you get the idea....

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