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"Iron Man" Release Brings Down Paramount's Servers

secmartin writes "Shortly after the release of Iron Man on Blu-ray on October 1, people started complaining of defective discs; the problem turned out to be that all the Blu-ray players downloading additional content brought down Paramount's BD-Live servers, causing delays while loading the disc. Which really makes you wonder what will happen when they decide to shut down this service in a couple of years."

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  1. PS3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    The PS3 has an option to allow/disallow Blu-Ray discs to connect to the Internet. It might be for just this sort of thing?

    1. Re:PS3 by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 5, Informative

      I don't remember that, but you might very well be right. I don't go into those menus very often. What I do know is that the Iron Man disc itself asks if you want to download whatever extra content there might be. Just pick "no" and the menu loads and the movie plays perfectly, at least it did for me.

    2. Re:PS3 by lysergic.acid · · Score: 4, Informative

      i thought the BD live content was extra content only downloaded once when you first play the disc--things like bonus scenes, soundtracks, ringtones, and other promo material--rather than just video streamed live each time you play it. i mean, that's the impression this kotaku article gives.

      so all this is just so that the BD you bought will show you the latest movie advertisements each time it's played? that hardly seems worthwhile. preview trailers are something you skip over, not something you waste bandwidth on.

      i wouldn't have thought that Sony or the movie studios would waste money and resources to provide each BD release with an ever-changing online video stream. just keeping the servers up would be expensive enough, but they'd also have to pay people to constantly update the live content for each disc they put out. and for 5 years? how much would it cost to produce or license 5 years worth of live content? that's like running a really unprofitable TV station that people only watch for 15-20 minutes once every few months.

  2. WFM. Well, FGFM. by fo0bar · · Score: 4, Informative

    Which really makes you wonder what will happen when they decide to shut down this service in a couple of years.

    People will get BD players that don't suck?

    I bought Iron Man shortly after work on Tuesday, and put it in my media center (currently running a demo of Arcsoft Totalmedia Theater). The branded "loading" screen spun for about 10 seconds, it gave me a warning saying it couldn't connect to the BD-Live server, and threw me to the disc's main menu.

    (Of course, there is a secondary WTF for the disc being mastered to try to download from BD-Live in the beginning, instead of when you go to the appropriate menu, but the primary WTF is the other players out there not failing gracefully to the disc.)

    Today I put the disc in again, and this time it downloaded the content.

    (Granted, there are real concerns about the key servers for authenticating BD/HD-DVD discs, but this discussion is just within the scope of downloading extra content via BD-Live.)

  3. Pure FUD by FSWKU · · Score: 5, Informative

    There is no requirement to actually utilize the BD-Live features to watch this title. I picked it up the other day, popped the disc into my PS3 and let it load. You know what happened? A screen came up ASKING wether or not I wanted to download the additional content. I chose not to, and it continued on its merry way to the main menu and I was able to watch the movie without any issues whatsoever.

    No BD-Live just means I can't have the option to have random quiz questions pop up on my screen during the film like "What kind of plane is shooting at Iron Man?" (F-22, btw). So no, it won't cause the world to end if they shut down the servers. All you have to do is click "No" and continue on to watch the movie that you actually bought the disc for.

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  4. Re:Okay. by the+eric+conspiracy · · Score: 4, Informative

    The answer is there are no circumstances under which a BD player truly needs to be hooked to the internet. In fact many BD players don't even have network connectivity. The only "advantage" to a player that does offer internet connectivity is that it offers a way for the studios to monitor what you are watching, and to deliver extra material to your player, and a way to obtain firmware updates for the player.

  5. Re:Okay. by Dhalka226 · · Score: 4, Informative

    My experience is with a PS3 as a Blu-Ray player, but I'll answer the questions as best I can.

    Do you have to hook them up when you're doing initial setup?

    No.

    Do you have to hook them up when you want to play any DVD?

    No.

    Do you have to hook them up when you want to play a disc with BD-Live content?

    Not to view the movie, but the BD-Live content would require you to have an active Internet connection.

    What would happen if you just didn't have it hooked to the net and tried to play this?

    You would have all of the content of the disc available, but none of the extra features (whatever those may be) that come from the BD-Live segment.

  6. Re:It's not about live content by jandrese · · Score: 4, Informative

    Actually, yes. If a player is discovered to be compromised, it can be added to a "bad guys" list and locked out. The list can be updated remotely or by trying to play a newer disc.

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  7. Re:Web isn't Really for National Media by ConanG · · Score: 4, Informative

    Just an fyi. Superbowl xxx already happened.

  8. Re:First Post. by 0111+1110 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Actually HiDef (not specifically bluray) is that much better when played full screen on a computer. Do the comparison sometime yourself and you will see that the difference is not subtle. However, I concede that the difference is not so great or obvious on many TVs. Also the degree of difference depends on the title. Some transfers are better than others and some of the older prints do not do so well on HiDef. On those titles there may be virtually no difference at all.

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