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Plug-In Hybrids Aren't Coming, They're Here

Wired is running a story about the small but vocal, and growing, number of people who aren't waiting for automakers to deliver plug-in hybrids. They're shelling out big money to have already thrifty cars converted into full-on plug-in hybrids capable of triple-digit fuel economy. "The conversions aren't cheap, and top-of-the-line kits with lithium-ion batteries can set you back as much as $35,000. Even a kit with lead-acid batteries — the type under the hood of the car you drive now — starts at five grand. That explains why most converted plug-ins are in the motor pools of places like Southern California Edison... No more than 150 or so belong to people like [extreme skiing champion Alison] Gannett, who had her $30,000 Ford Escape converted in December. Yes, that's right. The conversion cost more than the truck."

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  1. Re:Efficiency by WaXHeLL · · Score: 0, Troll

    That depends on how you measure efficiency.

    In this case: (electric+petrol) miles / (petrol only) gallons

    The electric efficiency is being ignored completely, and the miles driven on electric power are being used to massively inflate the petrol efficiency.

    What are you even talking about? The thread you replied to is talking about an alternator-less car to reduce the load on the engine. This is similar to what happens to your MPG with the air conditioner turned off, or the difference between driving downhill versus uphill. With or without an alternator, you're not driving on electric power, you're driving on an internal combustion engine.

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    The troll with karma.
  2. Re:Efficiency by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    You're obviously a Linux user...

    as nicely as I can say it.
    DUH!
    But the other Linux whores will not get it :-/

    thanks,
    Feltope

    ps: screw my karma I build plenty every day at work as a chef!!!

  3. Re:Efficiency by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Ignorant comments like these make me sad. And too depressed to rebuke you with facts that are available to anyone not illiterate.

  4. planet/population rescue not coming, already here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

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  5. Re:Efficiency by somersault · · Score: 0, Troll

    Ignorant comments like these make me sad. And too depressed to rebuke you with facts that are available to anyone not illiterate.

    Quit complaining if you aren't going to help the ignorant then, Mr Troll.

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    which is totally what she said