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Artists Strive To Wrest Rights From Music Industry

eldavojohn writes "The funny thing about the RIAA & BPI is that the artists are just as tired as the fans with how online music is being handled. So they're trying something new called the Featured Artists' Coalition. FAC's site states in their charter: 'We believe that all music artistes should control their destiny because ultimately it is their art and endeavors that create the pleasure and emotion enjoyed by so many.' As digital releases are increasing, the artists aren't seeing any more money. With the advent of online distribution, are the traditional music industry functions of promotion, samples, radio, and marketing now nothing but costly overhead for the artists? From Iron Maiden to Kate Nash to Radiohead, some big names are backing this new organization."

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  1. Stop saying RIAA by Dan667 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    To stop the RIAA, everyone needs to hurt those that fund the RIAA.
    These are the companies that need to be vilified.
    - Sony
    - EMI
    - Universal
    - Warner Brothers

  2. The RIAA doesn't represent ARTISTS? I'm shocked! by whoever57 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Shocked indeed.

    Unfortunately, there are far too many (largely former) artists, who would prefer to sit back and let the record labels pull in the money for them.

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  3. Well. by Creepy+Crawler · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Here it is. The start of the final fall of the RIAA and its ilk.

    The musicians and songwriters are revolting and refusing to be put in their place.

    The only question remains: Will they re-do what the RIAA has done? Will they seek an iron-fist of control?

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    1. Re:Well. by HiVizDiver · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I do firmly believe that the RIAA (and, by extension, the MPAA) are FAR from out of tricks. They didn't get to the positions they are by being stupid, just greedy.

      I fervently hope that I'm wrong, but we've been hearing the "This is it! The death of the RIAA!" announcements for YEARS.

  4. Re:Will they become the new RIAA? by DragonTHC · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think you have it completely wrong here.

    think less in terms of your own cleverness, and more in terms of publishing.

    Classical publishing is the model we're seeing here. Though, I understand the parallels are not perfect.

    The RIAA represents publishers. The web says, "we don't need no stinking publishers". Authors and 'artistes' are wondering why they're sticking to the old school publishing method when it provides so little return. They are going to try the new method. Self publishing is now possible and cost effective. The artists know this. The artists have the product. They have the name. Without artists, the RIAA and its member companies make a big 'whooshing' sound. i.e. vacuum.

    We will see labels and publishers suing artists for not renewing contracts. We will also see some artists re-invent themselves due to not owning their 'image'. The only thing that the RIAA's member companies bring to the table now is capital. The market isn't loyal to the publishers. The people are fans of artists, not labels. What we are seeing is the birth of a new industry from the ashes of an old one. The recording industry is at its knees and this, my friends, is its death knell. Long live music and the interminable spirit of human culture.

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  5. So does this mean people will stop pirating? by bonch · · Score: 5, Insightful

    One of the justifications I often hear for piracy is that you're revolting against record labels. Are people now saying that they will in fact stop pirating music if the RIAA isn't a factor?

    Why do I have a hard time believing that?

    1. Re:So does this mean people will stop pirating? by Joce640k · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If it means there's a web site I can go to and donate directly to artists I like then, yes, they'll get more money from me.

      If I'm "pirating" now it's because:

      a) The RIAA's various shenanigans over the last few years has earned my contempt.
      b) I don't believe the artist would get any of the money from a CD sale. The RIAA will keep it all.

      The only CDs I've bought in the last few years have been from places like CDBaby which state clearly how much the artist will receive from the sale. Buying from any other distribution model is worse than any amount of piracy IMHO.

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    2. Re:So does this mean people will stop pirating? by FridgeFreezer · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This is my rationale too - If an artist only gets 25% of my money currently, I'll happily pay them that amount directly (or a little more) as it is cutting out a huge swathe of arseholes all taking a cut and contributing nothing of value.

      With the current system, buying music legitimately is a bit like funding terrorism - the vast majority of your money goes to the people who are responsible for all the stuff that's wrong with the industry.

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    3. Re:So does this mean people will stop pirating? by Hurricane78 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Ok, first of all: STOP calling it piracy! Piracy is stealing shit on the seas and murdering people. And unless you want me to do that to you... ;)

      Second: People will of course continue to copy music, as they have done since they were able to do so.
      But does it matter? NO. Not in your way. Because freely copied music would still not be bought, if it could not be copied. Some people think it's not worth the money, and some just don't have it.
      So what's left, is free promotion, which could very well replace the promotion offered by the industry.

      In fact, that's why small labels are more successful since the beginning of MP3 and P2P.

      Oh, and for me personally, knowing that the money goes straight to the artist, does completely change the game. I like some artists, and this is a personal thing. So I support them by an here and there, or telling friends about them, even when I'm not buying their music. It's just cool and feel really good, to know that partially, a band got big because of you! :)

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    4. Re:So does this mean people will stop pirating? by harry666t · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The final outcome (piracy still happening) might not be as significant as the lesson we're learning from RIAA. The lesson isn't that RIAA is evil or something. It's the copyright law that's fucked up. Quoting GodWasAnAlien:

      > without copyright reform, the new association will become as corrupt as the first.

      Remove the root cause or see the disease coming back.

    5. Re:So does this mean people will stop pirating? by jedidiah · · Score: 3, Insightful

      ...except the RIAA was never about being a cabal of artists.

      The labor union analogy breaks down because the RIAA
      was never such a thing. It has always been a cabal of
      corporations. These corporations thrive on sticking it
      to the artists.

      So yeah, perhaps the artists finally need something
      that a least roughly approximates an musicians union.

      The RIAA certainly was never it. They make noise to
      that effect but it's pretty much like Henry Ford
      trying to make himself to be a spokesperson for
      the average UAW member.

      If this new Union isn't a bunch of assholes, I would
      gladly start buying music again.

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  6. RIAA mebers ARE NOT PUBLISHERS! by raehl · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They're promoters.

    You don't need the record company to get your CDs made or your music distributed. You need the record company to get your song on the radio, to get your band on Leno or SNL, to get critics to listen to your stuff....

    Being able to distribute your own music cheaply doesn't replace the record label - you still have to get anyone to want to listen to your music at all.

  7. Re:The RIAA doesn't represent ARTISTS? I'm shocked by quanticle · · Score: 4, Insightful

    While its entirely unreasonable to compare an RIAA contract to slavery, I do think you're overstating the amount of voluntary choice that one has when signing these contracts. Simply put, many artists see a choice between giving in to the RIAA or languishing in obscurity forever. And, it is in the RIAA's interest to let such a situation continue. This is why these sorts of organizations (by the artists, for the artists) are to be welcomed.

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  8. Re:Platinum by billcopc · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You mean the ones that have incorporated their own record labels in order to keep control over their life's work ?

    Yeah, I'm sure they're soooo dependent on the two dozen middlemen that stand between their studios and their fans.

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  9. Re:The RIAA doesn't represent ARTISTS? I'm shocked by billcopc · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In reality, that "big check" goes to the many people that handle the licensing. The artist gets, at most, a few pennies per play.

    That's part of the problem: the system exists primarily to support itself, compensating the artists is a secondary objective.

    I think radio stations are largely responsible for the great divide between those who collect royalties, and those who want/expect free music wherever they go. If you tune your car radio to WFKU-FM, you don't pay a penny (though the ads are obnoxious). If a restaurant plays music for its patrons, they're expected to pay licensing fees and/or subscribe to a commercial muzak service. Like many things in the music industry, the distinction was fabricated decades ago, and the business model is pretty much an exercise in hypocrisy.

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  10. Re:The RIAA doesn't represent ARTISTS? I'm shocked by Z34107 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Simply put, many artists see a choice between giving in to the RIAA or languishing in obscurity forever

    To play devil's advocate, it seems the RIAA is providing a legitimate service then, doesn't it? Sign here and you will no longer languish in obscurity.

    If this new artists coalition thingy can provide the same services, all the power to them. The industry needs competition, and if they can offer a better deal on the sign here to not languish part of the business, it's better for everyone.

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