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Where's the "IronPerl" Project?

Posted by kdawson on from the more-than-one-way dept.

pondlife writes "A friend asked me today about using some Microsoft server components from Perl. Over the years he's built up a large collection of Perl/COM code using Win32::OLE and he had planned on doing the same thing here. The big problem is that as with many current MS APIs, they're available for .NET only because COM is effectively deprecated at this point. I did some Googling, expecting to find quickly the Perl equivalent of IronPython or IronRuby. But to my surprise I found almost nothing. ActiveState has PerlNET, but there's almost no information about it, and the mailing list 'activity' suggests it's dead or dying anyway. So, what are Perl/Windows shops doing now that more and more Microsoft components are .NET? Are people moving to other languages for Windows administration? Are they writing wrappers using COM interop? Or have I completely missed something out there that solves this problem?"

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  1. What? by martinw89 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Perl/Windows shops? WTF?

    That's like buying an extremely overpowered, difficult to setup and impossible to maintain turbo for your Yugo.

    1. Re:What? by noidentity · · Score: 5, Funny
      Can't believe nobody's said it yet:

      Don't cast perl(s) before swine(dows).

    2. Re:What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Perl + Windows -- There's more than one way NOT to do it.

  2. A bit O/T, but by Big+Nothing · · Score: 5, Funny

    I _love_ perl. It's so simple, anyone can use it. In fact, the other day I found my 1½ yYO in front of the computer, and she had written a fully working email reader in perl. Truely amazing.

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    1. Re:A bit O/T, but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Unfortunately, this being Perl, she had been trying to write a word processor :)

    2. Re:A bit O/T, but by PrinceOfStorms · · Score: 5, Funny

      Not to be competitive or anything, but the email reader my cat wrote in perl this morning included a Bayesian spam filter. Did your child think of including that, huh?

    3. Re:A bit O/T, but by Big+Nothing · · Score: 3, Funny

      To be honest, no. Seriously, though, she's not that smart - I think she was actually trying to write a FPS game.

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    4. Re:A bit O/T, but by syousef · · Score: 2, Funny

      I _love_ perl. It's so simple, anyone can use it. In fact, the other day I found my 1½ yYO in front of the computer, and she had written a fully working email reader in perl. Truely amazing.

      Smalltalk would have been much more suited to the job.

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    5. Re:A bit O/T, but by daeley · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'm pretty sure that qualifies as an UUOC.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat_(Unix)#Useless_use_of_cat

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    6. Re:A bit O/T, but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Shit,

      I dropped a coffee mug on my keyboard this morning and it implemented the entire Porter stemming algorithm in 5 lines.

    7. Re:A bit O/T, but by ijakings · · Score: 5, Funny

      I wish she'd writtedn DNF, at least wed be out of a long wait.

    8. Re:A bit O/T, but by sqldr · · Score: 2, Funny

      My dad taught me brainfuck :(

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    9. Re:A bit O/T, but by jrockway · · Score: 2, Funny

      Perl is the Perfect Emacs Rewriting Language, after all.

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    10. Re:A bit O/T, but by GeekWade · · Score: 1, Funny

      Five lines! You must be a stickler for whitespace and comments.

  3. Re:Don't if this would help but.... by dvh.tosomja · · Score: 5, Funny

    oh god, At first I read the "Programming Perl in Dot Net" as "Programing in Perl is Not Death"

  4. As the NRA says.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    From my cold, dead hands!

  5. Masochism is rife within IT by Colin+Smith · · Score: 5, Funny

    Some people aren't happy until they have the worst of all worlds.

    "Because I can".

     

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  6. I don't know by Chrisq · · Score: 1, Funny

    Where's the "IronPerl" Project?

    I don't know, but have you tried asking Captain Jack Sparrow?

  7. Re:Perl in decline, at least here by johannesg · · Score: 2, Funny

    Based on what I gather in my country the use of Perl is actually in decline, while Python's is growing.

    It should be noted here that Asmodai is in fact a demon, and therefore lives in hell. So keep that in mind before you adjust your strategies based on what languages he is using...

  8. What color are the power LEDs on those servers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    and before you start ranting about windows is a poor web platform http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/today/top.avg.html.

    Your theory appears to be that Windows is a good web platform, because on netcraft, 2 out of the top 50 sites by uptime are running Windows. Wouldn't the goodness of a web platform depend on a whole bunch of things, only one of which would be uptime? And uptime would be less important than things like availability and ease of installing software. And most importantly, whether the machine has a blue or green LED for the power light. Obviously machines with blue power LEDs suck, but machines with green LEDs rock! And Windows web servers always have blue LEDs for power lights! Windows sucks and always will. They don't even know how to write drivers for green LEDs.

  9. Re:Perl in decline, at least here by RDW · · Score: 2, Funny

    I think they're just being Ironic.

  10. Re:No one made it cause no one cares by Lumpy · · Score: 3, Funny

    And the best part....

    Almost all MCSE holders are afraid of it so they cant hire low wage cert's to maintain and change it.

    I love perl in the windows world it allows us with skills to have yet another noose around the neck of management.

    VB.NET was our first noose for management. I was so glad when Microsoft made VB hard. Almost all the part time VB programmers in the office instantly were ineffective as they could not wrap their heads around OO programming.

    Problem is, there are still millions of VB6 applications in use today in corporations all over america... and one day micrsoft will do something to break every one of them.

    That makes me smile.

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  11. Re:Don't fight it - Perl is here to stay! by Lumpy · · Score: 2, Funny

    Yes and no. the biggest problem with perl is that many large apps require 90,000 obscure modules to be installed. Perl should have a automatic CPAN downloader that allows you to run your app and it goes and graps all those obscure modules and installs them instead of forcing me to sit there for 20 minutes typing....

    perl -mCPAN -e

    i foobar
    i buttmunch
    i nosescraper

    DAMMIT

    i noseScraper ...

    This could easily be done, as well as the dev's of the app could write a nice installer that does that as well. but it's a big put-off. I used to cringe when installing a webapp on redhat systems that the module was not available in the redhat repositories, install from Cpan a module and find it updates a redhat perl module that breaks something else....

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  12. join them all together ... using perl by NotQuiteReal · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...and in the darkness bind them

    There, I fixed that for you.

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  13. A bit of pussy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    So you nerds are getting a little pussy after all!