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Steve Jobs Patents "The Dock"

theodp writes "If you're a PC, you may be unfamiliar with The Dock, the bar of icons that sits at the bottom or side of a Mac and provides easy access to Apple applications. But don't count on it becoming a standard on the PC. On Tuesday, the USPTO awarded Apple — and inventor Steve Jobs — a patent for their User Interface for Providing Consolidation and Access, aka 'The Dock,' after a rather lengthy nine-year wait."

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  1. CDE? by goaliemn · · Score: 5, Insightful

    you have to be kidding.. CDE has had this for years, if not decades..

    1. Re:CDE? by furball · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You mean NextStep has had this for years, if not decades.

    2. Re:CDE? by speedtux · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Thus, Nextstep does seem to preceed CDE by quite a few years and with NeXT Apple purchased these IP rights.

      "These" IP rights? What IP rights would that be? Even if NeXT had been the first company to do this in the 80's, they would have had to apply for patents then, not more than a decade later.

      Second, there were equivalent constructions for X and Smalltalk. Oh, and in case you were wondering, both of those predated NeXT and NeXT liberally copied from both of them.

    3. Re:CDE? by mollymoo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Don't PCs already have a dock? "The bar of icons that sits at the bottom or side of a Mac and provides easy access to Apple applications."

      The sounds like a description of the start menu, and its corresponding bar.

      Yes it does. There are bazillions of patents with similar names because they cover similar subjects. With only a brief description of a patent it's impossible to know whether it is indeed novel. Fortunately, patents are more than a brief description. The Dock patent does into great detail covering the magnification feature. It's easy to trash a patent by looking at the title and saying "it's been done before". But when you actually read it, it becomes a bit less obvious the novel things the patent claims have actually been done before. Does Claim 120 ring any bells?:

      120. The method of claim 117 wherein each icon is displayed within a corresponding tile area having two opposite edges that are respectively located at distances d.sub.1 and d.sub.2 from said cursor, and said other icons are magnified by the factor 1+(d.sub.2'-d.sub.1')/(d.sub.2-d.sub.1), where: d.sub.1=S.times.sine(.pi./2.times.d.sub.1/W) and d.sub.2'=S.times.sine(.pi./2.times.d.sub.2/W), where W is equal to said defined distance, and (S=((H-h)/2)/sine(.pi..times.(h/2)/(W.times.2)), where H is a magnified size for one dimension of said one icon, and h is a default display size for said one dimension.

      That's some details of how that nice "hump" is generated when you use the magnification feature. Had you seen specifically that before 1999?

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  2. Re:The Death of Y'z Dock by Joe+U · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I don't know why that went out of style

    It completely went out of style when:

    Hi, I'm a Mac.
    And I'm a PC.

  3. Re:Oh.. you mean the Quick Start Bar? by CountBrass · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Not in usability land either. It's those kind of small difference that are found throughout OSX make the difference between an average UI and a great one.

    Yes I know OSX isn't perfect (I can rant for days about the awfulness of Safari) but to paraphrase Winston Churchill: OSX is the worst operating system, except for all of the others.

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  4. Re:Oh.. you mean the Quick Start Bar? by thepotoo · · Score: 4, Insightful
    What? That's ridiculous logic. I've used the dock on OS X (a little bit, anyway) and it's wonderful, except that you can't tell if something is running or not.

    If I glance at the KDE bar under the browser window right now, I can see a couple of PDFs, my Thunderbird Inbox, and Firefox open to Slashdot. In a separate area, I can see commonly used stuff that could be open but isn't right now (Konsole, Ktorrent, KVpnc, and Amarok).

    Tell me, why is it better to have these bunched together into a single menu where you can't differentiate what's open and what isn't?

    P.S. I bet I hit -1, Flamebait in less than 2 minutes for this, but I'm asking an honest question and would appreciate an well-thought-out answer from someone.

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  5. Re:More like windows 3.1 by hairyfeet · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I personally think that this is just a good example of how patents and copyrights passed the offramp to sanity a few miles back. You have MSFT patenting the double click(or as my home users call it "Clicky Clicky") you have Amazon patenting the single click,and now Apple has jumped on the crazy train. It has already gotten to be a minefield when it comes to patents and copyrights and I don't think anyone in their right mind would say that either promotes the arts and encourages innovation. What we need is serious reform or the USA is going to be left out of the 21st century as all the innovation goes to countries that don't have the minefields of patents and copyrights to navigate.

    And for those on Windows who wouldn't mind a quick,easy,low resource dock of their own I'd suggest they snatch a copy of Rocketdock before Apple ends up killing it over this patent. They have plenty of addons and icons and skins to customize it your way and it runs really nice.

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  6. Re:Oh.. you mean the Quick Start Bar? by carou · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Tell me, why is it better to have these bunched together into a single menu where you can't differentiate what's open and what isn't?

    In many ways, it doesn't matter whether an application is currently running or not.

    You want to use it? You click on it.

    The advantage is that it's in the same place every time, whether running or not. Sure, if it needs to launch the application then you might have a delay for a few seconds first, but otherwise the resulting behaviour should be pretty similar in both cases. (i.e. if a text editing application is running but has no windows open, then clicking on it in the dock will open a new window - just as opening the application would. The HIG documents mandate this.)

    If background applications are intelligent about not using CPU time, and the OS is clever about paging out unused code - then there's little reason you should ever need to quit an application. It therefore makes little sense of Apple to optimize their UI for two different cases, when a simplified version will handle both adequately.