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Online Community For a Call Center?

kirkmacdonald writes "I work as an analyst in a small call center. There are about 200 on phone agents, but half of them work from home. About a month ago I submitted a Project Charter to create an online Community for the agents. The basic premise was something approaching the combination of a wiki application and a standard forum (phpbb and the like). We already have an online knowledge base for company policies, training and system documentation. This community environment would be intended to simulate being able to talk shop with the person next to you, along with the lunchroom and water cooler. The Charter was well received but there were questions from upper management about how using this type of environment could affect the call center metrics (average handle time, after call wrap up, etc). Can anyone comment on other companies that have online communities for their staff? How did they mitigate productivity risks?"

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  1. tsk tsk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Your mistake was to ask upper management for an official project. Instead, just ask your co-workers for their IM contact information and get to know them that way.

    1. Re:tsk tsk by ushering05401 · · Score: 3, Funny

      "Your mistake was to ask upper management for an official project"

      And if you ever wake up and think - "wow, my boss finally gets the new web paradigm," you will have people like the submitter and commenters who post productive advice to thank.

      Btw, I have never dealt with the subject the poster is asking about, so I have no productive advice to give.

  2. Work From Home? by Kintanon · · Score: 3, Funny

    Are you hiring? Any language requirements? What company? What kind of call center? Come on man, hook a brotha up!

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  3. Say it can save time by haveing logs of how to fix by Joe+The+Dragon · · Score: 5, Informative

    Say it can save time by having logs of how to fix stuff vs having to google the same stuff over and over.

  4. Pilot, Explain, Measure by LaminatorX · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Roll it out to a test group first.

    Make sure they understand that this is a privilege, and that if important metrics are negatively impacted it will go away.

    Measure over a 60 day period. Be sure to incorporate user-feedback as well.

    1. Re:Pilot, Explain, Measure by eggoeater · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I'm a call center engineer.
      It will affect metrics. Without any doubt.
      To the call center managers it's all about AHT (average handling time.)
      In larger call centers (4000+ agents), shaving 1 second off of AHT will save you $100K a month.
      A lot of the products my company sells is all about analysis of call data (MIS) and the ability to better route the call to reduce AHT.

      The only way these types of projects/products get sold is to convince the managers that it will help solve the customers problem so they don't need to call back, thus saving money.

      It's INCREDIBLY difficult to get a call center manager to spend money on training agents how to better service their customers.

      But all that aside, I wish you luck.

    2. Re:Pilot, Explain, Measure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      You work for Accenture, don't you.

      I remember Accenture. They'd come in with their lattes, casual dress, and sunglasses all the way to the conference room, then sit in there and eat Thai while they talked about how many agents my company could lay off and stay within handle time target.

      I hated that vendor, because I sat by the conference room.

  5. Clearspace by colganc · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You should check out Clearspace (http://www.jivesoftware.com/products/clearspace). We looked into the product when searching for collaboration software. Ultimately we didn't pick it since it didn't fit our needs quite right, however it sounds perfect for you. Builtin forums, user profiles, wikis, and a host of other things.

  6. Don't give them a social environment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    In the end it is the responsibility of the agent to stay within metrics. I would recommend sticking with the knowledge base you have already, but wikify it. I lobbied for a wiki at the last call center I managed, got it, and our agents' productivity skyrocketed. You don't need to go much further than that.

    If one of your techs finds a way to make X do Y faster, let her put it on the X article. She doesn't need to post it in a social forum full of "lol" and "did you see the new guy's shoes". Wikis are great for call centers, but social environments would definitely tempt agents, since they would be "company-sanctioned".

  7. alan.c.davis@att.net by alancdavis · · Score: 5, Informative

    Long ago and far away I worked for DEC in the UNIX support team. We were spread out all over the world and had the normal complement of call history, system documentation and troubleshooting databases.
    When we started using IRC to share real-time information about callers problems our time-to-close went down significantly and closes-per-day went way up.
    The improvement was significant enough to get the attention of other departments and the IRC usage - along with several bots for integrating the call handling and mail response systems into the IRC channels - became wide-spread in the support group.
    This system survived the DEC/Compaq merger and on into the HP buyout.
    If I were to do the same thing again I'd use a jabber server rather than IRC but the principle is the same.

  8. Re:would be great if.... by pilgrim23 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I work in Tech Support. A small company, about 800 desktops, and a 4 desk tech support center. About 10 years ago I quit smoking. What this has to do with the subject is interesting:
      Back when I was a gasper I would meet by the designated smoking place with the other poor souls. Smokers at that time represented an excellent cross section of the company from the receiving dock to the corporate office. When I showed up for my quick smoke the conversation would always roll around to the computer headache of the day. Hardware, Network, slow response from the branch office, printers that always hang on a word macro, whatever. And 3 or 4 other people would jump in "Hey we have the same problem!"
    This gave me a quick "pulse" of problems that a call log, staff meetings, or all the other tools of the bureaucratic trade never provided. I miss that input.

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  9. Re:would be great if.... by eln · · Score: 3, Insightful

    the company could promise people dont use it as a place to vent their frustrations with customers.

    Are you trying to imply that call center drones have anything else to talk to each other about? In my experience, pretty much every conversation in a call center revolves around frustrations with the customers. If you don't spend enough time letting off steam by bitching about the customers, you'll eventually just bottle all that frustration in until you show up to work one day with a shotgun.

    Luckily, I quit the call center business before I got to the shotgun stage. Lousiest 6 months of my life.

  10. Re:Say it can save time by haveing logs of how to by techno-vampire · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Many issues have more than one possible fix. Speaking from years of experience in tech support, knowledge bases of fixes are of limited usefulness and are often misused because all they have are cheat-sheets on fixes. That means that unless the tech knows how to tell which fix to use (and only needs the cheat-sheet as a memory aid) they're going to pick one at random and hope for the best. Then, they'll either guess again or escalate the call and let some more senior tech try to clean up the mess.

    Granted, this can still happen (and often does) when the tech has access to other techs for suggestions, but it doesn't have to. If the company had (let's say) a private chat server and one or more chat rooms for techs only, somebody who couldn't tell which of several fixes to try first could ask questions and get back suggestions as to how to narrow the possibilities down. Management might go for this because it would be easy for them to monitor and keep the techs from using it for time wasting. (Just like you they don't have to monitor every call for it to have an effect; just knowing they might be listening in can keep you on your toes.)

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  11. Chat rooms in contact centre - manager perspective by michaelasi · · Score: 3, Informative

    I managed a small technical support contact centre of 80 full-time and part-time agents. About half of the agents also worked from home, like your situation. When we we trialed the ability of agents to work from home we identified the need to keep the agents connected. We used MSN Messenger for a while but soon recognized that this wouldn't work long term. We implemented and IRC chat server and found this fit our needs. When we were implementing this, I admit that I had the same questions as your management staff had. The results were surprising and very positive from a management point of view: 1. Our average handle time went down 15 seconds 2. Our productivity (calls handled, time on phone) went up 10% 3. We were able to keep key employees even when they moved out of our employement area 4. Improved the first call resolution rate by 5% I also believe this was a factor in our ability to have a low employee turn over of 8% in the contact centre. Later we were able to leverage the technology to improve communication between the contact centre and other groups in the company. Announcements regarding current operations situations could be quickly conveyed to the entire team reducing the trouble shooting time during an system outage and improving communication so efforts were not duplicated. Hope this helps and good luck.

  12. I have a little experience by kungfool · · Score: 3, Informative

    Having spent eight years designing call center applications, I can tell you the one metric you'll want to point your bosses at is the potential to increase first level call resolution. You should balance any increase in call handling time with the potential for greatly reduced call escalation. The key to this is involving the second and third level escalation points in your wiki.

  13. Re:if your employes aren't talking by mikael_j · · Score: 4, Interesting

    You do realize that one reason most techs at call centers come off as dumb is because they're not allowed to solve problems that they know how to solve, or they don't have the tools to solve the problems ("You might break something, now go play with something else like a good little boy") and because they're constantly pushed to handle more calls, right?

    Guess what will get a tech employed by a call center fired, is it A) Not properly helping a user, or B) Repeatedly exceeding the AHT. The answer is, of course, exceeding the AHT repeatedly, they don't care if you get pissed about poor service, they're so desensitized to your anger that all your yelling will accomplish is to trigger an urge within them to fuck you over by doing everything by the book (because it will take you ages to get proper help and no one will give them shit for treating you that way).

    Basically, what you called a productivity risk is exactly what is the problem with call center productivity. It's all about easily quantifiable data, and "calls handled per day" is a lot easier to quantify than "customer satisfaction". Besides, who cares if your employees are bitter and turnover for 1st line techs is over 100% per year? That just means you don't have to give out so many raises (yes, the head HR guy for a previous employer of mine actually said that).

    /Mikael

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  14. Focus on other metrics... by mrboyd · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Call center is productivity oriented, probably more so than any other activities, and most call center manager can't see further away than AHT (average handling time) and conversion rate/h. It is akin to chain factory work. You have agent working from home, so I assume that they are using either their own pc for the CTI application or a company provided thin client (citrix maybe?).
    In any case, they are home, and unless you have installed tracking software and forces them to leave their webcam turned on how do you know what they are doing? Reading a book, watching tv, breast feeding the little one, etc. I guess you don't and rely on your production report to award incentive to your agents and that so far it worked. Your company has already relinquished a lot of control to shave on the expense of renting and furnishing a hangar in suburbia so another forum is not going to change much on your production ratio issue.

    Point 1: Some of them are probably already browsing other website and chatting with their friends online giving them an opportunity to do it in an environment controlled by the company can only be a benefit. They'll spend more time focused on their work and the company.

    Point 2: Use other metrics to convince upper mgt, what is your current agent turnover? Can you reduce it by fostering a sense of community into your work-alone-at-home-for-a-soulless-company employees? By how much? What is the cost of training a new one?

    Point 3: Are you an inbound CC (where quality matters) or are you selling predatory housing loans and credit card (where volume matters)? Can a "community" effect produce an across the board effect of raising the quality of your services without cost. I.E do you expect your agent to learn trick of the trade from one another which will increase either their quality of services or their conversion rate?

    Point 4: Most agents don't like their job so expect a lot of ranting on your forum. Don't forget to clarify the posting policy with management and your agents or you'll be in trouble when one of them gets fired for complaining too loudly on the forum and sinks everyone else moral, shoot the turnover sky high and the productivity way low.

    I have never heard of a company monitoring the coffee room with camera and mics to hear the dirty jokes made on management so I really believe you should lobby for some partial anonymity. I let you figure out how to implement the "partial" part. And yes you should check with the lawyers... :)

  15. Here's a Few Suggestions, not all open source. by anomalous+cohort · · Score: 3, Informative

    I am interpreting the O.P.'s information request as a request for endorsements for a product suitable for building an online community for a call center and not a request for an already active online community for a call center. I am also assuming that the call center is for an ISV. Here are a few recommendations that are my favorites.

    • My favorite open source product for this sort of thing is GForge. It's got lots of call center friendly features and is also a hit with the coders.
    • The full featured yet non-open source version of GForge is SFEE.
    • Please don't mod me down, post nasty replies, or take away my karma points but may I feebly and humbly suggest my own product Code Roller? It's not open source yet but it is free (as in beer). Code Roller is not currently a perfect fit for call centers but has lots of great features that are conducive to managing the full life cycle for software development.