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Australian State May Give Students Linux Laptops

Whiteox writes "The Australian Prime Minister's plan to equip high schools with 'one laptop per child' may go open source. Kevin Rudd's $56 million digital revolution will include 'laptops [that will] run on an open source operating system with a suite of open source applications like those packaged under Edubuntu. This would include Open Office for productivity software, Gimp for picture editing and the Firefox internet browser.' So far this has been considered for New South Wales and I think other states may follow."

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  1. The real reason behind this... by MavEtJu · · Score: 5, Interesting

    NSW secondary school students could be issued with $56 million worth of Linux-based laptops as part of Kevin Rudd's digital education revolution.

    The real reason behind this is that the federal government would supply the *hardware*, but that the schools would have to pay for the *software licenses* and the *support*. At least the price for software licenses would be greatly reduced now.

    (Despite being a FreeBSD user,) I consider this is a good step forward: Give the children wooden blocks to play with, and they will build bridges with them.

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    1. Re:The real reason behind this... by grcumb · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Give the children technology that they, and their teachers don't understand and the laptops will end up gathering dust.

      That's not what experience teaches us.

      I'm of an age (born in '64) to remember when the pupils were the only ones who really knew how the computer systems worked. It was a time when 'hacking' was a positive term, and those happy few who had access to their systems became the people who have driven this whole technological revolution.

      I'm a perfect example. I have exactly zero formal computer training, and am in the process of negotiating a director's position for an online company.

      In my experience - and I have applied this method countless times - all you need to do is identify the bright, curious ones and give them time in front of the keyboard. The rest takes care of itself. A cultural effect sets in, in which bragging rights go to the most innovative, and the whole process takes on its own momentum.

      I've spent the last 5 years working in a part of the world where academic opportunities are very limited, and even here every single one of my apprentices (only one of whom had any post-secondary experience) has gainful employment in IT.

      Courses are all well and good. They serve a definite purpose. Teacher training serves an important role as well. But your premise that any shortfall in this regard will result in systematic failure is demonstrably false.

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  2. Don't worry by QuantumG · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Microsoft will be forthcoming with massive discounts 5 minutes before the deal with RedHat is signed and our government will renege on any promises they made.

    It's the traditional "what do you mean we don't get a discount? Well, ya know, Open Source is getting more and more acceptable..."

    Unfortunately, the moral imperative for schools to use exclusively Free Software is not even a consideration here.

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  3. Re:Times are different now. by grizdog · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That strategy worked great for Apple back in the late 1970s / early 1980s. Get Apples in front of schoolchildren and by the time the IBM PC came along it was too late. Kids were already in love with the Apples, and many "stuck with what they knew." It was the most effective long term marketing move Apple ever could have made, and I doubt they even realized it at the time.

    Times have changed, though, and the ability to monopolize the hearts and minds of kids with the only computer they're exposed to is long gone. Many of the kids will already have PCs at home, many will have (or at least have played) X-Boxes, PS3s, Wiis and a host of other devices, including smart phones. I don't think this can have the same social effect that Apple had on us 30 years ago, because the environment is now so different. The novelty won't be there.

    I agree, but there is still something very positive for Linux going on here, and that is that now Microsoft has to run around trying to put out fires like this one, and has less time to spend doing... other things. I know that people here think Microsoft has more money than God, but eventually the moles start popping up faster than you can whack them down, and you have to start losing some.

    Australian students may not choose Linux when they leave school, but they will be more likely to have a choice when the time comes.

  4. You are REALLY underestimating them. by seeker_1us · · Score: 5, Insightful

    " Give the children technology that they, and their teachers don't understand and the laptops will end up gathering dust. I'm all for using OSS, but somebody needs to take responsibility and ensure that teachers and students are properly educated in their use.

    How difficult is it to use firefox, Openoffice, and Gimp? Seriously? It's not like we are asking them to use LaTeX.

    Neither students nor teachers are idiots, despite being treated by idiots for years by Windows software.

  5. Re:In the middle of an economic crisis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    It depends how the debt was incurred.

    If the debt is incurred to fuel capital spending, then yes, the debt helps the nation to grow by increasing our productive capacity.

    If the debt is incurred to fuel consumer spending, then it's bad debt.

    Debt comes with interest payments. Paying interest on the debt only makes sense if the benefit received by the debt is greater than the interest paid. So it really depends how the debt is used as to whether or not the debt is bad.

    As for Australia being a "developing" nation: what crap. Australia is not a "developing nation", according to all international benchmarks. We have one of the highest standards of living, next to the US and Japan.

    Australia:

    Infant mortality: 4 / 1000
    Adult literacy (men): ~99%
    Adult literacy (females): ~99%.
    Life expectancy (males): 78.9 years
    Life expectancy (females): 83.4 years
    Per-capita GDP: 37,300 $US.

    For truly developing nations, these statistics are much much worse. Take India, for example.

    Infant mortality: 33 / 1000
    Adult literacy (men): 76%
    Adult literacy (females): 65%.
    Life expectancy (males): 63.1 years
    Life expectancy (females): 66 years
    Per-capita GDP: 2,600 $US.

    (Yes, I know that Qatar has the highest per-capita GDP, that's largely due to its reserves of oil. An outlier doesn't disqualify the general trend.)

    Developing nation? Please. You either don't understand the term or are unqualified to speak about it.

  6. Re:Times are different now. by cheater512 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    They will not only learn how to use the open source apps, they will also then get on a Windows computer and realize how much it crashes and does quirky things.

    One problem with Windows users is they dont consciously realize when something has gone wrong.
    They just think 'Oh its crashed' and re-open the app.
    They think its just how computers are.

  7. Re:Times are different now. by mdhoover · · Score: 5, Funny

    Stabby Stingray?

    /me runs