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Every Email In UK To Be Monitored

ericcantona writes "The Communications Data Bill (2008) will lead to the creation of a single, centralized database containing records of all e-mails sent, websites visited and mobile phones used by UK citizens. In a carnivore-on-steroids programme, as all vestiges of communication privacy are stripped away, The BBC reports that Home Secretary Jacqui Smith says this is a 'necessity.'"

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  1. Time for a new protocol by chiasmus1 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Assuming email messages in the UK are actually sent using clients and servers in the UK, it seems that this would be a great time to start working on getting a newer fixed up protocol ready to completely replace the easy to snoop on SMTP.

  2. Re:PGP... by xrayspx · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I really do hope this drives people to make encryption ubiquitous. All of the egregious US programs have failed to make the public use crypto, but this seems to be well publicized enough that it might make a large chunk of people install and use good crypto.

    GPG plugins for Mail.app and Thunderbird are at the point now that it's basically set it and forget it, come on folks. (I don't so much like the GPG Outlook plugins, but maybe I haven't messed with it enough)

  3. Re:In other news by Ihmhi · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It really disturbs me that the plots in various movies, video games, and books that would have been considered "out there" or "couldn't happen" are gradually becoming true.

    Obvious ones (which I've mentioned in a related post a few weeks ago): V for Vendetta and 1984.

    Disturbingly accurate: Mirror's Edge. From the Mirror's Edge Wikipedia Article:

    The game's name derives from the mirror-like aesthetic of the city of tall, gleaming skyscrapers and Faith's existence on the fringes of that city along with other dissidents, who have been pushed to the edge.

    Though set in a seemingly utopian city environment with low crime, clean streets, and sterile architecture, it is ruled by a totalitarian government regime that conducts unbridled levels of surveillance on citizens. [emphasis added.] In this world of communications monitoring, the only way to deliver confidential information between parties is to employ couriers (called runners) to physically deliver the information.

    Granted, it's more likely that drivers, bicycle messengers, etc. would be used in our current era, but I imagine even vehicles will eventually be surveilled and controlled. "We need to be able to watch people in their cars so we know they're driving safely." "We need to be able to remotely shut off cars in case it is stolen or if someone is driving drunk." etc.

    I wonder how they'd handle couriers delivering information to circumvent this system.

    tl;dr: cute Asian mailwomen will backflip off of walls to get your letter to grandma.

  4. Actually: *more* fucked up & don't seem to kno by toby · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Miss the memo?

    Warrantless surveillance of American domestic communications has been going on for years.

    Not only has it been comprehensively abused (to exactly nobody's surprise), the spying infrastructure has no legal reason to exist.

    That sinister sound you hear is Nixon laughing at you, wearing a Dick Cheney mask.

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  5. Hot Button Checklist by Jason+Levine · · Score: 4, Interesting

    She said: "Our ability to intercept communications and obtain communications data is vital to fighting terrorism and combating serious crime, including child sex abuse, murder and drugs trafficking.

    Terrorism? Check.

    Protecting Children/Child Pornography? Check.

    Looks like it's got everything that would be needed to pass it were it introduced here in the US. Plus, it has Murder and Drugs as bonuses. (And before someone misreads my post, yes I know this is happening in the UK.)

    Nor are we going to give local authorities the power to trawl through such a database in the interest of investigating lower level criminality under the spurious cover of counter terrorist legislation.

    Of course not. You can trust the highly trustworthy, never corrupt Federal government to keep the corrupt local government's fingers out of that database and to never misuse that database itself. Suuuuure.

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  6. Annoyed by QuoteMstr · · Score: 5, Interesting

    There are many people to whom the UK's system is perfectly reasonable.

    Earlier tonight, I had an argument tonight with this woman who favors censoring YouTube. It went like this:

    Her: I can't believe people put videos of woman being raped up on YouTube. They should stop that.

    Me: Well, they'll take them down, and they're usually taken down pretty damn fast.

    Her: Thousands of people can see the videos on the meantime. YouTube should screen all videos before putting them up. If they won't do it, they should be forced.

    Me: Ugh. That would break YouTube. The expense would be huge. It'd drive YouTube out of business. Would you really rather have no YouTube at all?

    Her: Then we'll have the government pay for it, or even set up an agency to review the videos.

    Me: The cost to society would still be astronomical. And doing that would provide a very easy avenue for the government to censor anything anyone finds offensive. It's dangerous. If you want to go down that route, why not pass a law stipulating some huge fine for posting videos of rape? Then YouTube will at least be forced to comply on its own.

    Her, crying by this point: I don't care. Fines aren't good enough. People might still see the videos. We have to filter them all.

    [cut argument about my supposedly not knowing when to stop debating]

    Her: It's not about 'cost to society', it's about protecting women. I'm appalled that you would put not being censored ahead of that. I don't know if I can care about someone who doesn't want to protect women. You should go.

    Keep in mind this woman will have a doctorate in less than a year. *sigh*

  7. Re:That's it by corsec67 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    One good campaign to try and fix some of that is http://thirty-thousand.org/ , where they want to have 1 member of the house for at most every 30,000 people. Considering the House hasn't been expanded since 1910 aside from Hawaii and Alaska, it has been very distorted from what it should be.

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  8. https://yro:slashdot.org by messner_007 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    https://yro.slashdot.org/.... Why can't I browse slashdot with https ???