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First Official Photos From New Star Trek Movie
Philias Fog writes "The most secret project in Hollywood is finally lifting its skirt. Today Paramount released a number of images for their new Star Trek movie directed by JJ Abrams. Shots include images of the bridge of the Enterprise, the villain Nero, a ship (not the Enterprise) and all of the crew in uniform. TrekMovie.com has a complete set of photos and links to all the new shots."
Bah.
There are rules. Well, mostly. The rules for rec.arts.startrek.* from way back when seem to apply just as well today: if you saw it on the screen, large or small, it's 'canon' -- officially part of the Trek Universe.
Any discrepancies in on-screen material are just blown off as a YATIs -- Yet Another Trek Inconsistency. It's not like a movie and television project that has spanned almost 40 years, 5 television series, about a dozen movies and has had literally hundreds of writers can possibly keep everything consistent. Get over it.
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Pine is 28. Kirk was 30 when he took command of the Enterprise. Its not that they are so young its that Shatner was so OLD when he played Kirk (over 35 during the series) and your miss remembering how young Shatner really was in WNMHGB in comparison to the series proper which was filmed almost a year after the second pilot.
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Not to be the trek fanboy I used to be, but Kirk was the youngest captain in starfleet history. I'm assuming this is before he was legendary, and I'm sure they're going to be making the movies about how he /became/ legendary. Anyway, carry on.
PS - The Klingons didn't have a word for surrender...until they met Kirk
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You'd be suprised how little time it takes for the air to escape from a relatively small container such as the Enterprise into a practically infinite vacuum through a hole a few inch in diameter.
What bothers me more is the smoke in the left side of the picture. Anyone here knows how smoke 'should' behave in space?
Let's be generous and say a 10 cm hole - that's just under four inches.
Well, I don't know the math, but I've worked around compressed air systems a little, and I found a little chart for gas flow through pipes of varying diameters and lengths. Air at atmospheric pressure is at 14.5 pounds per square inch - not very high pressure. This is not very high, so it's not like punching a hole in a compressed air tank.
If we guess that the hull is 3 cm thick, and the hole is 10 cm in diameter (the hole is effectively a pipe), according to the ancient looking chart I found, the flow rate is 748 liters per second. (This is assuming I'm interpreting this correctly).
I can't be bothered to do too much googling for this, but a Constitution class starship is 305 meters long. Let's just guess that it's 120 meters wide and an average of 20 meters thick. I know rabid trekkies will correct all this, but it's not important to be all that accurate. 305 x 120 x 20 = 732,000 cubic meters. That's 732 million liters, for those still reading. 732 million liters divided by 748 liters per second is 978,609 seconds to empty the ship to vacuum.
That's 11.3 days to empty the ship through a 10 cm diameter hole. All based on guesses and an old chart from an engineering handbook, but it's better than just saying "little time".
Of course, I could be wrong.
It might take longer; especially when you consider that as the ship empties, the internal pressure drops - when half the air is gone, the atmospheric pressure inside is only 7.25 psi, so the flow rate is also reduced in half - so it might take a month or more to completely equalize the internal and external pressures (external being close to zero).
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At what point does the atmospheric pressure become dangerous to people inside the ship?
At 5.8 psi you become unconscious, but even at 90% of normal atmospheric pressure (13 psi) most people would be strongly affected by the reduced oxygen saturation.
You can imagine that the internal structure of the ship would slow the flow the further away from the breach you are, so pressure would be lowest in the breached compartment, and higher as you move away from it. Seems like automatic airtight doors are a staple of Star Trek, so chances are only that one compartment or an area of the ship would be affected anyway.
Plenty of time to get to an escape pod, transport out, or put on a space suit, anyway.
Unless you're standing next to the hole and get stuck to it. In which case you'd seal it nicely, saving the air and getting a nasty bruise.
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