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DRM-Free Classic Games Store Opens To Public

arcticstoat writes "With all the controversy surrounding DRM in games at the moment, one games store has decided to buck the trend, proudly proclaiming that all its games are DRM-free. First announced back in July, Good Old Games is now in the public beta stage, which means that anyone can now access the site's archive of classic PC games, and you can do what you want with your game when you've bought it, too. 'You won't find any intrusive copy protection in our games; we hate draconian DRM schemes just as much as you do,' says the site. 'Once you download a game, you can install it on any PC and re-download it whenever you want, as many times as you need, and you can play it without an internet connection.'" In related news, Stardock, the company responsible for the Gamer's Bill of Rights, is apparently working on a new copy-protection solution that will be friendlier to consumers than current schemes.

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  1. Whoa by Xtense · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'm pretty surprised that they managed to get all these out on the start. I expected one or two good games, but whoa, Descent? Earthworm Jim? Fallout? Gothic? MDK? Operation Flashpoint? Shogo?

    It's like I died and got zombified in the better part of the 90's!

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    1. Re:Whoa by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      A good selection and a good price ($6 each). The one question remaining is, what platform do they require? A lot of the games I saw were originally released for DOS, and so would run nicely in DOSBox. Are these the originals, or are they updated versions that I can't run because they require Windows? Looking at Battle Chess (a game I remember playing on a 286), it says compatible with Windows XP and Vista, so apparently I'm not in their target market. Possibly they just include the original games and bundle a DOS emulator (much easier than porting to Windows), but if this is the case it would be nice if they'd advertise it.

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    2. Re:Whoa by the_arrow · · Score: 3, Informative

      I just downloaded the Descent and Descent 2 package, and yes they do indeed use DOSBox.

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    3. Re:Whoa by mcvos · · Score: 2, Interesting

      A good selection and a good price ($6 each). The one question remaining is, what platform do they require?

      You mean: does it run on linux?

      That's what I'd like to know too, actually.

    4. Re:Whoa by mcvos · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I wonder who the money goes to, though... In the case of Fallout 1 and 2, certainly not the developer, since Black Isle is long gone. So.. whoever hold distribution rights now, is that sill Interplay or did they sell everything to Bethesda? My point being, if your rationale for paying for games is supporting the devs, then buying some of these classics may not do that at all.

      Could be. Supporting the devs is probably best done by buying within a year of release. But by buying you might still give a signal that there's a demand for this kind of game.

    5. Re:Whoa by Haeleth · · Score: 5, Insightful

      if your rationale for paying for games is supporting the devs

      Since when did one need a rationale for paying for things that cost money?

      It's pirates who have to go to extra lengths to justify their behaviour, not purchasers.

    6. Re:Whoa by phorm · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Because piracy is not proper an alternative to purchasing. Not buying is a good alternative. Pirating a game - especially one that's available in a convenient form at a more-than-reasonable price - just proves that really no matter what argument you use, you're just a cheap loser who doesn't want to shell out cash and has to come up with stupid arguments to justify your behavior.

      Buying on eBay is another story, but really I doubt the prices on there are much better than most of the games on this site.

    7. Re:Whoa by larry+bagina · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You'd rather pay $5 (plus shipping) and deal with ebay, paypal, and an unknown seller than pay $6 to download them?

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  2. Re:No DRM? by 91degrees · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You can probably download most of these games anyway. And it's not like DRM ever stopped pirates.

  3. Re:No DRM? by jonaskoelker · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No DRM? Good news for pirates!

    No, good news for honest buyers.

    Let's divide people into three groups: those who buy, those who make the pirated (DRM-free) version, and those who pirate.

    Those who buy will now get a better product.

    Those who pirate never see the DRM in the first place.

    Those who make the pirated version will have an easier time; this benefits the pirates ever so slightly, but DRM is often defeated faster than you can say Yo-Ho, so the benefit is ever so slight.

    The real winners, whenever DRM is removed, are the honest consumers.

  4. Freespace FTW by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    I bought Freespace 1/2 off of GOG and played it on my Mac through FS2_Open, the open sourced FS engine... a kick ass game, in beautiful high res graphics. This is how all abandonware should work ;).

    And it sure as hell beat the X-Wing / Tie-Fighter series out of the water in terms of innovative mission design.

    Plus, their site is really slick, clean and easy to use.

  5. You're Missing A Point by Kneo24 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yes, but how well will the pirated versions play on XP or Vista? They might do ok on XP, but it seems with each newer iteration of Windows, compatibility mode works less and less. With GOG, you don't have to worry about downloading a few programs just to get them to work. You can pay a small fee and just have the game work. That's the intent. A cheap classic without DRM that will be guaranteed to work on Vista? Yes please!

    1. Re:You're Missing A Point by somersault · · Score: 4, Interesting

      for the sake of $6-$10 I'd just pay it. If that is more money going to the original creators, or even just stores that explicitly sell their games as DRM free, then I think it's a good thing.

      Anyone could get virtually any game, movie, album or TV program for free if they wanted. It's just that not everybody is a dick.

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    2. Re:You're Missing A Point by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It wouldn't cost them anything to add a DOSBox logo next to the games that they ship with DOSBox though, and then I'd know I could play them in DOSBox on platforms I use.

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    3. Re:You're Missing A Point by Kneo24 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So? What's your point? How long will those torrents or FTP servers stay up? GOG has a longer chance of being active than either of those two options. So essentially GOG is still easier to use than the alternatives. Everything is done for you. You pay a small fee.

      The time you spent trolling on here, you could've spent that time earning $6.

  6. Re:a little high for some of these old games... by Kneo24 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    And how would they make a profit from that price? I imagine the publisher / developer needs to get a slice of the pie too. And then there's the cost of the servers, etc... That $3 would be eaten up fast with likely little to not profit being made.

  7. Re:Trojan Asshats... er horses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Stardock != Starforce

  8. Re:No DRM? by Haeleth · · Score: 2, Insightful

    DRM is more of a hassle to legitimate purchasers than it is to pirates.

    That really does depend on the DRM, though. I quite agree that the best option is no DRM, but that's not to say that all DRM is equally bad.

    The DRM in Mass Effect was a right pain. Forget the limited-activations issue -- it nearly prevented me from activating the game once, thanks to a locale-related bug that suggests that the underlying code is incredibly poorly written. I shall never play another game that uses SecuROM, period.

    On the other hand, the only way I know Valve's games have DRM is because I've been told it. I'd never have noticed otherwise, because buying from Steam has been completely hassle-free.

  9. Because Incentives Influence Behavior by Aragorn+DeLunar · · Score: 2, Insightful

    How about this rationale: By increasing the profit potential for really good games (even a decade after their original release!), we encourage game companies to make more really good games. Otherwise they'll just focus on short-term gains with yet another Sims expansion pack.

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  10. That took me a whole 2 minutes. by Macthorpe · · Score: 3, Informative

    Look harder. Linked from the front page and everything.

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  11. Needs more by etherlad · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Looks good so far, but their library is still a little limited. I still have copies of most of the games I'd want to buy.

    Now if they get access to Sierra and LucasArts' back catalogue, then we're in business.

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  12. perfect for netbooks by Dimble+ThriceFoon · · Score: 2, Interesting

    all those DRM'less digital download games are perfect for netbooks without optical drives. a jolly good idea that i will be supporting.

  13. this site is tops by Bobtree · · Score: 3, Informative

    I signed up and bought Hostile Waters on Thursday.

    GoG.com is easily the best online buying experience I have ever had.

    The selection is quite good but currently limited (I already own 20 of the 40+ titles). Most titles are $6, with a few more recent ones at $10.

    The site design itself is excellent, with a global wishlist, ratings, reviews, and forums. Buying was totally painless.

    Games are DRM-free downloads, pre-patched, XP/Vista compatible, come with installers, have extra download materials (like manuals), and get game-specific support sections and forums.

    I'll definitely be shopping there again.

  14. Re:NO mention of their use of dosbox on their site by Kneo24 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Yup, you just like to bitch.

    The fact is, 99% of the people using GOG aren't going to care about DOSBOX. The only thing they care about is that they have a hassle free way of getting their favorite classics to run on their newer PC. That little thanks that you expect on every single page will just clutter the layout

    Besides, their thanks page isn't hidden. Using hyperbole to drive home your bitchiness doesn't make it your point any more valid.