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Depressed Astronauts Might Get Computerized Solace

alphadogg writes "Clinical tests on a four-year, $1.74 million project for NASA, called the Virtual Space Station, are expected to begin in the Boston area by next month. The effort is designed to address the onset of depression in astronauts while they are in outer space. In the project, sponsored by the National Space Biomedical Research Institute, a recorded video therapist guides astronauts through a widely used depression therapy called 'problem-solving treatment.'" Here's a related story from a few weeks ago. Those astronauts got it rough.

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  1. Re:Depressed astronauts? by Spazztastic · · Score: 2, Insightful

    And furthermore depression is evident when working in close proximity with others. There's no escape, you can't go and do anything really private. Hell, how are you supposed to do something as simple as crank out out when you have to worry about catching it all or it may jam an instrument panel?

    Best job in the world? I disagree. I'd rather win the lottery and do nothing for the rest of my years then be an astronaut. That is if I could choose :)

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  2. Companionship by chill · · Score: 3, Insightful

    How about just flying up the occasional prostitute for "group therapy"? They could do what they do with astronauts and rotate which country she is from, etc.

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    1. Re:Companionship by Drakkenmensch · · Score: 3, Interesting

      NASA has a known hardline anti-sex policy... perhaps it's time they start rethinking that approach. Are they expecting to send a group of people on a six month mars mission (with the worst case scenario that they may never return) and think that sex won't happen? It is, after all, one of the greatest joys in life.

    2. Re:Companionship by Chyeld · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yeah, that's just what we need.

      One fuck up in contraception and all the sudden you've got the first interstellar birth with a kid that's doomed to spend the rest of their life on another planet, the mom and/or it doesn't die. You want to think about how hard it is to get baby vomit out of instrumentation?

      Or are we going to try the Chinese route and sterlize everyone going up? I'm sure that'll help the ranks of volunteers swell.

      Or hey! Here's an idea, shove the possibility of romance related tensions into missions where people are already going to be living almost right on top of each other. I'm sure between the stress of the mission, the complete lack of privacy, and love triangles there couldn't possibly be anything that could go wrong there.

      After Lisa Hardwick flipped out over her relationship issues on the ground, you really think NASA has enough of a pulse on their people that they can pick the right group that won't snap up there?

  3. Re:Depressed astronauts? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Depression is not always about something. That's the thing. Sometimes people just feel like total shit without there being a clear reason for it.

  4. Re:Depressed astronauts? by dattaway · · Score: 4, Funny

    People who have the best job in the world (and out of this world) really don't get much sympathy from me when they complain about the job.

    Never underestimate several people in a small capsule farting over many days. Sometimes depression will make your eyes burn.

  5. EMACS- what problem can't it solve? by tunabomber · · Score: 3, Funny

    M-x doctor always did it for me.

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    1. Re:EMACS- what problem can't it solve? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Why do you think that Eliza is a tease?

  6. Re:Depressed astronauts? by jonas_sten · · Score: 3, Interesting

    After a while you would become depressed because your money is the wrong color. man have simply not evolved to be happy. depression is clearly not a new fad. People hated their jobs in the 12th century and still do.

  7. Quick, cheap, and easy alternative by Rob+T+Firefly · · Score: 4, Funny

    Write the following on sticky notes and place them around the ship:

    CHEER UP, EMO ASTRONAUTS!
    You have the coolest freaking job in the whole damn stupid world.
    Untold thousands of nerds would do anything to get where you are, but the closest they'll ever get are sewing together their own Star Trek uniforms.
    Get over your damn selves, and get back to being awesome.

  8. I swear I read this as "Depressurized Astronauts" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    and I thought, "Geez, that's nice of em, but..."

  9. Computerized Solace? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    This really just sounds like a fancy name for porn.

  10. Re:Depressed astronauts? by Chyeld · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Dear me, what a quaint and outdated view of what depression is and how it works. Are you one of those people who assume that addiction is merely a matter of will power? Or are you and Tom Cruise shacking up together to discuss the fallacies of modern psychology.

    Thank you for reminding us how people treated the ill back in the 1800's.

  11. Re:Depressed astronauts? by Vellmont · · Score: 4, Insightful


    Wake up whenever you want. Get fed at regular intervals. The only job requirement is that you show a modicum of glee when your owner is around. What does a dog get depressed about?

    Dogs are not people (or specifically, not you) and they don't share what you out of life. The breeds we have were bred for certain jobs like herding, hunting, or killing vermin. In general they weren't bred to be companion dogs. They desperately want to do this job and without that fulfillment, they have problems. I don't know if that specifically can cause depression, but I could see it.

    I guess my point is, without actually having BEEN a dog or an Astronaut on a space station, it's difficult to know exactly what they go through. So I wouldn't be so quick to judge.

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  12. Right.... by argStyopa · · Score: 2, Insightful

    " the project, sponsored by the National Space Biomedical Research Institute, a recorded video therapist guides astronauts through a widely used depression therapy called 'problem-solving treatment.'""

    On Earth, we just call it porn.

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    1. Re:Right.... by gstoddart · · Score: 2, Funny

      On Earth, we just call it porn.

      Yeah, but in space you'd have to design an entire device for collection so you don't have spooge floating around the space station. That'd likely foul up some equipment somewhere.

      I'm pretty sure the logistics of a micro-gravity wank in an enclosed space with sensitive equipment is far more challenging than simply giving the astronauts porn. :-P

      Cheers

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  13. Re:Depressed astronauts? by MindKata · · Score: 4, Interesting

    "After a while you would become depressed because your money is the wrong color. man have simply not evolved to be happy. depression is clearly not a new fad. People hated their jobs in the 12th century and still do."

    An alternative interpretation would be, a job acts like a cage (retricting what you can think and do) and a caged animal feels depression, at lack of freedom. So its not that people are or are not evolved to be happy, its that people are not evolved to be caged in a job.

    Sounds like its time you found a new cage! :) ... while its still a cage, the new surroundings may make it feel like a better cage.... that is, until you can find a way to live without the need of a cage... I'm still looking for the answer to that one, like most people. :)

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  14. Naw, drugs by smchris · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Worked in Outland. Just remember to put on your helmet.

    Or wall-projected golf and a nightclub.

    Despite the "world's coolest job" posts, I'm more on the Philip K. Dick side that thinks months in a can will truly suck and they'll have ad agencies lying through their teeth to get people up to the mining colonies.

  15. Reminds me of a story about Apollo astronauts by Darth_brooks · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I remember hearing a story about several of the Apollo astronauts experiencing problems with depression. I guess after walking on the freaking moon, making gravy train money on the lecture circuit doesn't give you the same sense of accomplishment.

    I guess in this case Willy Wonka was full of shit. Getting everything you want in life doesn't always lead to "happily ever after"

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  16. response by Verdatum · · Score: 2, Funny

    I see...And how does Depressed Astronauts Getting Computerized Solace make you feel?

  17. Addiction is a matter of willpower by GuloGulo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Addiction is a matter of willpower. Find me an addict who has kicked and stayed clean for a length of time who doesn't directly reference their own willingness to quit as a determinant.

    That doesn't mean it's only about willpower, but your claim simply has no merit.

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  18. Re:Depressed astronauts? by frieko · · Score: 4, Informative

    As a depression patient I can say long-term space travel includes basically all the known triggers to depression - stress, isolation, sleep deprivation, lack of sunlight. And there's problem-solving steps you can do to migigate each of these.

    The standard treatment for depression is medicine AND therapy. There might be room on board for a bottle of Lexapro but not for Counselor Troi. So that's the aspect they're working on. I don't see anything outdated about what they're doing.

  19. Submariners might be better by TheLink · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Never underestimate several people in a small capsule farting over many days"

    That's the thing, perhaps NASA is selecting from the wrong pool of people to put into small capsules for long periods of time.

    Instead of picking from the usual air force sort of people maybe they should be picking candidates from nuclear submarines.

    Might be easier to find a submariner that can be trained to fly than to find an air force sort of person willing to put up with being stuck in a claustrophobic tube for months with no way out except "Mission over" or death.

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  20. Interplanetary lag by NotQuiteReal · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The lag one would have in a spacecraft to Mars would make me even more depressed.

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  21. Re:Depressed astronauts? by couchslug · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Hell, how are you supposed to do something as simple as crank out out when you have to worry about catching it all or it may jam an instrument panel?"

    Stealth fapping tech is inevitable. A cross between a Fleshlight and a milking machine should do the job.

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  22. Re:Depressed astronauts? by NotBornYesterday · · Score: 2, Funny

    Forget that. Fap out loud. None of the other astronauts will touch your stuff after that.

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  23. Re:Depressed astronauts? by khallow · · Score: 2, Interesting

    An alternative interpretation would be, a job acts like a cage (retricting what you can think and do) and a caged animal feels depression, at lack of freedom. So its not that people are or are not evolved to be happy, its that people are not evolved to be caged in a job.

    My take is that would be a wrong interpretation. The job isn't a cage in this example, it is merely perceived as one.