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Alarm Raised On Teenage Hackers

Arno Igne writes to tell us that the number of underage participants in "high-tech" crimes has risen steeply in recent history. Reporting children as young as 11 swapping credit card details and asking for hacks, many are largely unskilled and thus more likely to get caught and arrested. "Communities and forums spring up where people start to swap malicious programs, knowledge and sometimes stolen data. Some also look for exploits and virus code that can be run against the social networking sites popular with many young people. Some then try to peddle or use the details or accounts they net in this way. Mr Boyd said he spent a lot of time tracking down the creators of many of the nuisance programs written to exploit users of social networking sites and the culprit was often a teenager."

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  1. Gosh, underage hackers with no skill? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I wish we had a term to describe that... something that notes the fact they are younger, and simple in their skills... Maybe "script kiddies?"

    1. Re:Gosh, underage hackers with no skill? by Rasperin · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No reason to go after the guy who makes rifles, hand guns, etc. Go after the guy who used it to murder people.
      No reason to go after the guy who makes vehicles. Go after the guy who used it to run someone off the road.
      No reason to go after the guy who makes whiskey. Go after the guy who used it to beat someone with.
      Your argument goes both ways sir.

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    2. Re:Gosh, underage hackers with no skill? by Jabbrwokk · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I think you'll agree that hacking and phreaking is different than some n00b using scripts to commit electronic crimes. Hacking something just for the sake of doing it, to learn how it works and to poke around in forbidden space, is different than stealing credit card numbers so you can buy the latest ecksbawks game.

      Hacking is still illegal, but but it's not necessarily malicious, like stealing and using someone's credit card number.

  2. This is new? by MindlessAutomata · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Script kiddies have been around since the AOL days. Hell, I myself got a juvenile laugh out of punters (remember those? God, the AIM clients were so terrible back then) and other "progs".

    Mostly I imagine the vast majority of this stuff nowadays is myspace-related. Probably kids trying to break into someone else's myspace page because they're little drama whores like that.

  3. Ummm... by Corpuscavernosa · · Score: 5, Insightful

    many are largely unskilled and thus more likely to get caught and arrested.

    Problem solved?

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  4. if you can't or won't by circletimessquare · · Score: 5, Insightful

    find a flaw in the system, the flaw will be found by someone else

    the nice thing about kids being the perps is that there is no more nefarious purpose than "i did for the lulz". do you really think if these teenagers weren't loudly and clumsily exploiting security holes that someone else with much more nefarious purposes is not expoliting the same security holes quietly and discreetly?

    consider kids hacking websites to be that website's security research division. the flaws are found, the flaws are fixed, everyone makes out better. thank god for loud dumb scrit kiddies

    seriously, script kiddies are a blessing. they provide incentive to harden your website, incentive that some websites don't have and apparently need

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    1. Re:if you can't or won't by moderatorrater · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yes, trading stolen credit card information is "doing it for the lulz" and has no nefarious purpose.

  5. been around for a long time by systematical · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I got my first computer when I was 10 around 95-96, within a year I discovered that I could pretend to be someone else by setting up a somewhat legitimate email account and sounding official. My friend and I would email tripod users, geocities users etc... posing as someone who offered free web services. Eventually we would get passwords to their accounts, change the password, and vandalize the web page (eventually we got tired of doing of this, i think we discovered girls around age 12). I didn't learn that this was called phishing until I was in high school. On the plus side it forced me to learn HTML (I wanted my vandalizing to look good), which eventually lead to a career in web development. Hopefully these delinquents can be saved too.

  6. Re:I forget the term... by Alarindris · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I highly doubt that. I used to be a landlord in a rough area of town. We'd see cops there at least once a day. There's no way in hell they can expect a landlord to police. A landlord collects money (only sometimes) and maintains the ground and is in charge of repairs, not law enforcement.

  7. Re:Oh no, 11 years old trying to hack social sites by Rorschach1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Back when I was a kid, it was those skills that we had to develop to GET the pr0n! When the biggest source was a local BBS with a reasonably vigilant sysop, we had to get creative. It taught me a little about social engineering... like if you registered with a totally unpronounceable foreign name, the sysop would just validate you without a phone call because he didn't want to mispronounce it.