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Microsoft Joins the OpenID Foundation

Posted by CmdrTaco on from the embrace-and-extend dept.

wertigon writes "Windows Live ID just became yet another OpenID-provider. While the cynical me wonders how long it'll be before Microsoft transforms OpenID to something proprietary, they have undoubtedly put even more weight behind the OpenID initiative. So, how long before I can use my OpenID to post on Slashdot?" Patches are always welcome, wertigon ;)

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  1. Re:Tinfoil Hat by dnwq · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Note to the oblivious: OpenID doesn't eliminate anonymity. Far from it.

    Wikipedia:

    Since OpenID is decentralized, any website can use OpenID as a way for users to sign in; OpenID does not require a centralized authority to confirm a user's digital identity.

  2. OpenID Concept still has issues. by mpapet · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It might be okay for joe-shmoe consumer, but there are still common-sense issues standing in the way.

    First and foremost is the dead-simple notion, "You mean I'm going to trust a single source for EVERY password for every site I go to? No thanks! I've had my identity stolen already."

    If I was in charge of the Right Brigade, I would change the nexus from some server-in-the-sky to your PC storing/providing authentication. I know that's crazy-talk, being responsible for your own identity and everything. Just call me old-fashioned.

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  3. Re:Someone Want to Tell Me by neoform · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This is something the user wants?

    I certainly have no interest in having people be able to associate my account on suicidegirls to my facebook account to my msn messenger account...

    (i don't really have a suicidegirls acc, i'm just using that as an example)

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  4. It's for your security by soren100 · · Score: 1, Interesting

    "So, how long before I can use my OpenID to post on Slashdot?"

    So how long before governments require OpenID to eliminate internet anonymity?

    Given that the government has been pumping the idea for a while that somehow terrorists are "recruiting" online in places like Second Life , not long at all.

    From the first article:

    It is certain that virtual reality is doing real damage with intelligence, recruiting, fund raising and the spread of Islamic extremism. This assault may start with bytes, not bullets, but American generals will tell you, its a hot war all the same on a battlefield called "jihad.com."

    Asked if the Internet is training up new battalions of those young people, Custer tells Pelley, "It's a self-fulfilling prophesy thats exactly what the jihadist Internet is there to do."

    So in the name of protecting your freedom and liberty from terrorism, and protecting the children from the "jihadist internet", OpenID will become required to access any site worth accessing. That way terrorists can have their OpenID revoked, and your "freedom" is saved. It's very convenient, and besides, you have nothing to hide, right?

  5. Tinfoil hat?? by Riot.ATL · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Does anybody else not like the idea of using one ID to log in to several web sites?

  6. Re:Color Me Confused by larry+bagina · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "This move" is a fundamental problem with OpenID, not Microsoft specific. Everyone wants to be a provider; no one wants to be a consumer. (Or in slashdot terms, everyone wants to top, no one wants to bottom).

    .There have been a spate of announcements recently with a number of companies both large and small announcing that their products will .support. OpenID. [.] All these OpenID support announcements and I am not getting anywhere with my OpenID. [..] it seems that while we have plenty of companies wanting to step up us providers (easy) and have their users use their OpenID.s with other applications, we don.t have enough companies stepping up as consumers of OpenID. [.] it seems that OpenID is flavor of the month and everybody is jumping on for the ride (I could post .Burger King Supports OpenID. and it would make the frontpage of digg). [.] It seems that most of the justification for the big companies and other apps not wanting to be providers is so that they can protect their customer base and maintain a hold..

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  7. Re:Someone Want to Tell Me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    You can create as many accounts as you want and use them as you choose. You can have one account to be a "technical smartass", one account to associate with people from work, and one account for posting on perv forums, whatever. You're still the decider of what pseudonyms do what.

    Putting on my futurist hat, I see this as the first step in establishing a decentralized "karma" or reputation system.

  8. Re:Microsoft is not an OpenID Relying Party by fprintf · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I wonder if you can run the identity server on DD-WRT? That would be cool without requiring me to keep my computer running all the time!

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  9. Re:Color Me Confused by MindKata · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "Can we get +1 and -1 Paranoid mods"

    Its clear from your comment, you have no real knowledge of power seeking. So while your getting your +1 & -1 mod points, you should also ask for a +1 & -1 Boiled Frog mod. Because some people can see how power games are played, and some like you, have not been burned enough yet, so fail to see how the power games are played. Try reading some history, then you will see how throughout history, knowledge is used to gain and maintain power. While your at it, you should also try read up on the connections between PR and how big business and governments have used that to great effect, over the past nearly a century. Here's a clue, the origional name for PR was Propaganda, but Public Relations sounds so much more friendly than Propaganda, so they call it PR, but it has the same goal, as its the same thing, just with a different name.

    Many of the people who seek power are relentless power seekers. They are as obsessive about the need to gain power, as many programmers are obsessive about learning some new aspect of programming. While you may not know about the obsession for power, I would hope you can however relate to the intensity of obsession, to seek something they want.

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  10. Re:openid needs to fix shit altogether by Requiem18th · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Ah but can't you see, the reason they are abusing OpenID is because the freedom OpenID provides. Free communities can always be raided by greedy entities, and the only thing stopping them is public backslash, think prisoner game. You have to convince everybody to NOT accept OpenIDs from specific sites, an OpenID blacklist if you will, I'm all for it actually.

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  11. OpenID and phishing by jesterzog · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This won't solve the problem but the OpenID Community Wiki has a page documenting different ways in which phishing might occur, a well as a collection of recommendations.

    Probably in the long term, assuming OpenID becomes popular, it might come down to browser makers to specifically recognise OpenID, and do things like let the user specify who their OpenID provider is so that it can make it really obvious when the user's logging into the correct place. eg. If the browser doesn't start flashing its borders bright pink when the user visits their claimid.com login page, the user might suspect that they're giving their credentials to the wrong website.