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Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex) Released
SDen writes "Bang on target, the new version of Ubuntu Linux is available for our downloading pleasure. Amongst various changes it sports updates to the installer, improved networking, and a new 'Mobile USB' version geared towards the blossoming netbook market. Grab a copy from the Ubuntu website, and check out Linux Format's hands-on look at the Ibex."
Grab a copy from the Ubuntu website ...
TorrentFreak has a great tutorial on using BitTorrent to upgrade to Intrepid Ibex. Odds are high that the default servers in sources.list are going to be taxed pretty heavily today so this might be useful to a lot of people.
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Now if only Microsoft & Apple could harness & effectively utilize the power of p2p
My work here is dung.
Too bad Nvidia didn't fix their driver in time for the 8.10 release. Using VESA sucks. http://kubuntuway.net/
Torrents:
Desktop - AMD 64
http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/8.10/ubuntu-8.10-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
Desktop - i386
http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/8.10/ubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
I am downloading both of these, they are quite fast. Seeders are increasing by leaps and bounds!
I'm not sure on your issue, but the network manager has had some serious work done:
http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/intrepid/alpha5#Network Manager 0.7
Mod me down, my New Earth Global Warmingist friends!
P2P Has been single handedly neutered by the likes of comcast.
That is a huge overstatement.
Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others.
This version of Ubuntu works better on the EEEPC than Hardy did. They have included alot of eeepc modules so less tweaking is needed. If you have a 701 with 4gb, compressing /usr will give you a
at least 1gb free space, possibly 2gb. I used this tutorial too do it:
http://po-ru.com/diary/linux-liposuction-or-xubuntu-in-under-a-gig-on-the-eee-pc/
The tutorial works on Xubuntu and Ubuntu, possibly Kubuntu but I haven't tried that. Read the comments on that page for extra help.
I initially tried 8.04 on my Acer One and found a lot of basic features required some ugly workarounds. Before I gave up on Ubuntu (was going to do a binary version of Gentoo using my desktop as a build server), I gave 8.10 beta a shot and everything (wifi with ath5k, sound with snd-intel-had, etc.) works out of the box. I'm very satisfied with the 2.6.27 kernel.
Sadly, PS/2 was yet another victim of USB, which doesn't care what you plug into it, the electrical slut.
Yes.
There's a brand new atheros driver with the new kernel that has certainly been working it's magic with wireless cards.
Ah, found the answer, thanks AC. Unfortunately Ubuntu put the torrent files on their releases server, which is slow. Here are mirrors:
ubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
ubuntu-8.10-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
Linux Format is a UK publication. The clocks did indeed go back last weekend in the UK.
You might not be experiencing the same bug I was, but if you are, this is what I figured out.
/etc/modprobe.d/blacklist and add the line 'blacklist ipv6'.
My wireless worked fine after this, when previously it would disconnect somewhere instantly, and rarely staying up as long as 2 minutes. Hope this helps.
Looking through dmesg, I noticed what appeared to be authentication requests. It appeared to be coming from me. Doing a little hunting, it appears that a lot of routers do not support ipv6 in addition to a few wireless drivers not fully supporting ipv6. Either way, browsing would be fine, until an ipv6 connection was attempted. This would return a "connection not found" type error, and resulted in deauthentication, technically the right course of action.
Long story short, and from reading about other people having similar problems, opened up
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Personally, despite some wonderful new features, I'm going to stick with 8.04 for a bit, at least until they work out the bugs. Of course, I won't ever be prompted to upgrade to 8.10, because 8.04 is a long term support release. Having a look at the release notes, at least one unacceptable (for me) bug is:
This is not a new bug in 8.10 by any means, it's been present since 8.04.
http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969
download torrent of your choice from the tracker itself. It will be a lot faster.
Will an AR5007 card work with 8.10 right out of the box? Or else I'm not going to bother with it if I can't even get a internet connection.
Yes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EeePC/Fixes
Most user-friendly distribution of Linux my ***...
What can Ubuntu do it the kernel did not support it in earlier versions? Go complain to your hardware manufacturer.
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If you are talking about the legacy drivers, they were released in beta by Nvidia just yesterday. According to Nvidia they have "preliminary support" for Xorg server 1.5, so they should work with Intrepid, though I don't know how well. They'll probably be included in the first round of intrepid updates if they're stable enough.
I wish you luck. My upgrade doesn't recognize my sound card, Pidgin starts but displays nothing, and Totem hangs (MPlayer does work). And the network configuration tool shows both wired and Bluetooth links, but it doesn't seem to actually use the Bluetooth link for data (even if I disconnect the wired LAN cable). Sure do look purty, though.
I don't get it why Ubuntu is so populair, Kubuntu (with KDE as window manager and not Gnome) is faster/stabler/more mature imho.
They have to live on the Isle of Man or South Africa to make the Ubuntu list of names. Besides Iguana was already used by O'Reilly for something.
Guess it depends on which driver you're talking about. I upgraded to the RC last week and mine never stopped working. From my glxinfo: OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation OpenGL renderer string: Quadro FX 1600M/PCI/SSE2 OpenGL version string: 2.1.2 NVIDIA 177.80
Is OK. I'm just glad you're not intentionally trolling. :)
Going over the relevant bug (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24/+bug/182489) it looks like the answer is "yes, but there's a twist". The driver was included, but turned out to cause more problems than it solved, but the release window closed too soon. So the solution is to install the 'linux-backport-modules' package for intrepid (http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=linux-backports-modules-intrepid). If you can't connect to the 'net to get the package, you can download it manually at http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/i386/linux-backports-modules-2.6.27-7-generic/download by clicking on one of the mirror links. This page was found from http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=linux-backports-modules-intrepid by making assumptions about your system, namely that it was a desktop system (click on "intrepid" in "intrepid (devel): Backported drivers for generic kernel image"), that it was 32-bit system instead of AMD 64-bit (the "i386" link). You'll need to go through the selection process again if you use a different system than what I assumed, or if you wait too long and there's a kernel update (because you'd end up downloading the package for the old kernel instead of the package for the new kernel, and it would fail to install). HTH.
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Not everyone can use torrents, so try out the metalinks. These are XML files that list mirrors & checksums, helping you find a server, and verifying that the download didn't have errors.
You can use DownThemAll! (Firefox extension), KGet in KDE4, GGet in GNOME, aria2, or metalink-checker (among many other Windows/OS X/Linux download clients).
The official .metalink files are available at
http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/8.10/
http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/kubuntu/intrepid/
Sorry, my bad.
Once Intrepid is installed, you will need to go into System -> Administration and select 'Synaptic Package Manager'. Once synaptic has started, search (Ctrl+f or Edit -> Search) for "linux-backports-modules-intrepid". Mark "linux-backports-modules" for installation by double-clicking on it, and it should automatically select the correct packages for you to install. Then click the check mark on the toolbar to accept the changes and install. If you don't have network access, you'll have to download the correct package manually, and then perform the above procedure to ensure you keep the package up-to-date.
This is likely a good idea; it's usually easier to help when you have the computer right in front of you. :)
http://packages.ubuntu.com/nl/intrepid/build-essential says "This package contains an informational list of packages which are considered essential for building Debian packages. This package also depends on the packages on that list, to make it easy to have the build-essential packages installed." It's unlikely that installing this package will be of immediate use to you. Rather, it would help if you have to compile a driver yourself (iirc, this is the situation prior to Intrepid).
It seems to me that the easiest way to get the AR5007 to work is to install Intrepid and then install the linux-backports-modules through Synaptic, as I outlined above.
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To answer the last question first: it is the final version, not a beta (although I foresee that some (inherent) bugs will still have to be ironed out in the next weeks or so).
And instead of the EEE version of 8.10, I suggest you install the full (K)(X)Ubuntu and add Adamm's kernel packages for Ubuntu 8.10, which add support for all the problematic devices on the EEE (on top of this they also remove some kernel modules not needed on the EEE, resulting in much shorter boot times).
Here is the link where you can read more about the needed packages: http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?id=46649
250g and you get cut off is a limitation in my book. If you don't want to use what you paid for, more power to you. I however, want to use what i purchase.
Furthermore, the OP was talking about commercial software companies ( like Microsoft ) hijacking *others* bandwidth to distribute updates for software you pay for, not ubuntu which relies on others generosity.
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He didn't know any of this, because he only heard it from somebody else (who probably didn't know what they were talking about), and subsequently blew it out of proportion.
Actually, it sounds like you only heard this from somebody else (who probably didn't know what they were talking about), and subsequently blew it out of proportion. He doesn't claim it contains non-free software, but that it suggests non-free software, which is true. To quote from his e-mail to the OpenBSD-misc mailing list,
From what I have heard, OpenBSD does not contain non-free software (though I am not sure whether it contains any non-free firmware blobs). However, its ports system does suggest non-free programs, or at least so I was told when I looked for some BSD variant that I could recommend. I therefore exercise my freedom of speech by not including OpenBSD in the list of systems that I recommend to the public.
Sounds like he understood the issue well, and if you know about his philosophy, its extremely clear why he won't recommend OpenBSD. By doing so, he would recommend the ports system that suggests the use of non-free software, and by recommending it he will implicitly also suggest the non-free software.
And to clear things up, OpenBSD does not contain non-free blobs in the kernel, and they even themed their 3.9 release on this issue. Because the emphasis is on security, they did so for primarily for security reasons. In a sense, the OpenBSD kernel really is more free than the Linux kernel you get with most distributions, as many distributions include non-free binary blobs with the kernel (including Ubuntu). To push this point through,
The fact that OpenBSD is not a variant of GNU is not ethically important. If OpenBSD did not suggest non-free programs, I would recommend it along with the free GNU/Linux distros.
It is entirely about the ports system. Other than that, he's all for it. In fact, I doubt you will find him telling people not to use OpenBSD, but rather warning them to be careful with the ports system.
You don't have to agree with him, but at least get the facts right about his argument.
I've experienced serious regressions with Intrepid Ibex. Among them is bad audio due largely I suspect to the new False, I mean, Pulse Audio system. Wine games are largely unplayable unless I disable sound. Then there's the confirmed "won't fix" bug concerning Gnome session (https link to Ubuntu bug tracker here). Now every time I log out I have to manually restart all my applications. I'm not talking about the usual background system stuff but the important end-user programs like Pidgin, Firefox and Gnome Terminal. All in all, this is the most troubling Linux upgrade I've experienced since I switched to a Debian derivative. The last time something like this broke was when I couldn't play Crack Attack because of a Mesa incompatibility in Debian Unstable! And that was fixed within weeks.
"Ubuntu Linux is available for our downloading pleasure. Amongst various changes it sports updates to the installer, improved networking[...]"
Well, I personally find this a little ironic since I've tested Kubuntu a few days ago and since I have a non-DHCP, manually IP set-up, I found it to be almost impossible to get a working Internet connection. The KNetwork applet (or whatever its name is) will not open. I tried setting it up manually by, yes, using Konsole. Internet connection worked for a few seconds after that it automatically tried detecting my IP. Setting it again manually worked. For another few seconds. A friend advise me to get rid of avahi, I did with no use.
But again, it was Kubuntu and it was a beta version, I'm sure they fixed it by now.
While Windows (XP) will not have drivers for everything with the base install, it has never failed to install on whatever machine I've tried. It also BOOTS.
Man, you certainly didn't try to install XP on a SATA only machine.
Don't know how SP3 goes but SP2 is a MAJOR PITA in this respect. Finding which SATA driver actually works for the windows installer can be quite a challenge.
After failing to install XP, i did try installing ubuntu and it installed without a hitch.
That's when i realized that life can actually be easier by using linux. Quite a shocker when you haven't really made the jump yet.
That was like a year & a half ago.
Today the linux side is even better, as installing from usb thumb drive is like a thousand time faster than from a CD. Still possible with xp, but much more complicated than the 2 or 3 clicks required for the just released intrepid ibex (and for previous releases/other distros, there's still unetbootin: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/).
But then again, i'm writing this from my macbook :)
Only time i had to install osx was when i upgraded my HDD.
Still sucks that installing from USB isn't an easy process though.
Why don't you listen Stallman talk about this in his own words. He starts talking about operating systems including non-free programs at 20:30 and BSD specifically at 22:01.
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