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How To Make Money With Free Software

fons writes "Dutch Python hacker/artist Stani took part in a contest organised by the Dutch Ministry Of Finance to design a 5 euro commemorative coin. And he won, using only free software: 'The whole design was done for 100% with free software. The biggest part consists of custom software in Python, of course within the SPE editor. For the visual power I used PIL and pyCairo. From time to time also Gimp, Inkscape and Phatch helped quite a bit. All the developing and processing was done on GNU/Linux machines which were running Ubuntu/Debian. I would have loved to release the coin under the GPL, which could maybe solve the financial crisis. However for obvious reasons I was not allowed to do that.'"

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  1. Re:More like... by woot+account · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Or the purpose of the article is to bring light to the fact that he won the contest using only FOSS software, and they chose the title of "How to Make Money" as a pun, where you would assume they meant "how to profit", but they literally meant "how to design money".

  2. Re:More like... by moderatorrater · · Score: 4, Funny

    You could have the same title for an article about an author that wrote a book using OpenOffice.

    Slashdot actually rejected my submission when I did just that. It's a pity, too; Return of Macbeth is an instant classic.

  3. This is an excellent example by femto · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This guy won due to superior design, not due to the fact that he used free software. The free software is in the background, contributing but almost incidental to the final product. That's how is should be though. Free software released the artist from the constraints of having to fit in with someone else's idea of what software or technology he should be allowed to use, leaving him free to be creative and follow his own unique path.

    1. Re:This is an excellent example by elashish14 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Nevertheless, it's good publicity for FOSS. If you show that you can be productive with it, more adoption.

      In fact, if more people that use FOSS say it, it will remove the stigma that such software is substandard to the business alternatives.

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    2. Re:This is an excellent example by Bryansix · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Uhm, there is an excellent chance that he would NEVER be able to afford all that software if he actually had to buy it at commercial going rates. So the free software was a great tool which was also an enabler in this situation.

  4. Re:How to Make Money with Free Software by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

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  5. That's Impressive by Phat_Tony · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This guy is a master of symbolic design. He's the modern heir of the artistic geniuses who did all the dense symbolic religious iconography in early christian churches and for secret societies. It's perfectly fitting, since architecture, particularly classical architecture, is loaded with design secrets and hidden meanings, and the coin is about architecture. This coin being loaded with dense symbolism and being about architecture, I hope there's something masonic hidden on it somewhere. I assume the masons were active in The Netherlands?

    My question is - did he just use open-source on principle, or did it confer an advantage on doing this project over the commercial alternatives? Or was it harder to do it with the open source software? Clearly it involved a lot of custom scripting. Did he go as far as to look at the source code to accomplish this, or dig into the software in other ways that couldn't be done with closed source? Anybody know?

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    1. Re:That's Impressive by bmcage · · Score: 4, Informative
      Dude, the guy wrote an entire python editor, SPE (Stani's Python Editor)! The special forte of it is that it integrates with Blender.

      His editor is really good, but some performance issue on my 64bit. I prefer it over Erik4 otherwise.

      I think you can savely assume that if he is not happy with something, he just changes the source code and recompiles.

  6. As a Computer Graphics Instructor... by TheModelEskimo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...it made me giggle with joy to see the guy mention he won against people using Adobe products. I teach Adobe products to impressionable college students, and when they sign up to take my class and purchase their own copy of Photoshop or Illustrator, boy do they think they have ARRIVED in cool-town. Many of my new students think that once they *understand* how to use Photoshop better than most, they are now a graphic designer, creative person, illustrator, web designer, etc.

    So I started doing an extra credit assignment where I tell them they are not allowed to use Adobe products, and they have to design a postcard. They use any package they want; most use GIMP or Inkscape because they're free. Without fail, they come back and say, "hey, I can't do anything with this. It's not Adobe. It sucks." So I point out to them that their Adobe software skills make them think they're pretty good at design. But what happened to their awesome design skills when they started using another software package? Does the software really suck, or do they just hate it because of its non-Adobeness? I show them nicely-done work by other GIMP or Inkscape users. Blank looks. Lesson ensues.

    Relying on a specific software package is fine. *Depending* on it is risky. And *not being able* to design using anything else because of some marketing-infused mental block just means you're spoiled and/or ignorant. Bravo for the true creativity displayed in the article.

    1. Re:As a Computer Graphics Instructor... by LandDolphin · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Adobe is a tool. Much like your key board is a tool.

      That test as akin to asking someone to type with a non-QWERTY style keyboard.

      Your test did not challenge their design and creative abilities, it tested their ability to use different tools.

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    2. Re:As a Computer Graphics Instructor... by TheModelEskimo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's not a test, it's an extra-credit assignment that is optional. The assignment exposes their response when given a new tool to use. This is valuable because it answers this question: Do they discard the new tool because they've only learned craftmanship with one tool, or do they attempt to use it and seek help where required?

      If a student views himself as a craftsman who uses one tool, he needs to know that he is selling himself short, that is all. Half of the student's grade in these classes is based in the application of design principles independent of any specific specific software package. So for an extra credit assignment, that's more than appropriate.

      Also, If I were teaching a keyboarding class, I'd have no problem exposing my students to Dvorak or Das Keyboard in similar optional, extra credit assignments.

    3. Re:As a Computer Graphics Instructor... by TheModelEskimo · · Score: 4, Interesting

      If they think knowing Photoshop makes them good designers, then it means you're a bad teacher

      Not really, but your comment may indicate that you're a bad reader. I was referring to my "new" students, the ones that come in on the first day with lots of presuppositions.

      GIMP does pale as a Photoshop replacement for professionals

      I don't see where I argue against that in my post. Also, "pales" is one of those words that doesn't exactly help anyone understand your point. More than needing to hear specific reasons, I'd want to know why you would feel the need to list them, considering the fact that you own both.

      You can draw Mona Lisa in MS Paint [youtube.com].

      Are you saying that you can do that? Because for many who can't, this is actually a powerful lesson to learn. Many aspiring designers learn this lesson too late; I know a few who use adobe software not because "it works and I can express myself with it" but because "it makes me look professional in conversation." In fact, I am considering dropping a subcontractor for this reason. He can use the software, but he makes excuses for his lack of design training.

  7. humor alert: It's a joke, and it's funny! by marhar · · Score: 5, Funny

    For the humor-impaired, it's a pun:

    make (earn) money vs. make (design) money

    referring to the often asked question, how do you make money with free software.

    get it?

  8. Re:More like... by lahvak · · Score: 4, Insightful

    But he was *making money*, get it? Coin - money...

    Anyway, the interesting thing here is not that he designed something with free software, people do that all the time, but that his design won. Of course I didn't read the article, but A assume his was not the only entry, and that at least some other entries were prepared with proprietary software.

    So it wouldn't be "an author wrote a book using OpenOffice" but rather "a book written using OpenOffice won some prize". Of course books created by free software regularly win top places at typography contests, so it would still not be that unusual.

    There is, however, certain feeling among both professionals and public that in the area of graphics design, proprietary software rules, and using free software gives you a serious handicap. That is what makes this interesting.

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  9. Re:Fuck Python by sexconker · · Score: 4, Funny

    The GP makes a post, saying "Fuck Python C# for life!", and you make a post essentially saying "Fuck C#, real languages for life!".

    It's a real battle of wits, isn't it?

    How dare someone prefer one programming language to another!

  10. Re:I don't get it.... by HonestButCurious · · Score: 5, Informative

    Did you RTFA (or more specifically LATFC)? This coin has algorithmic outputs both on the front (the Queen made out of architect names) and on the back (an outline of Holland made out of books). I can't see how anybody could create it using Photoshop or Illustrator. The coin designer probably spent more time coding than sketching (like the book Snow Crash).

    Also, it's beautiful. I want one, no, a few million of them.

  11. Re:Fuck Python by Sloppy · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yeah, it's just the kind of petty small-mindedness that I would expect from an emacs user.

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  12. Whatever. by sootman · · Score: 4, Informative

    The more talent you have, the less important the tools are.

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  13. Re:Fuck Python by sexconker · · Score: 4, Funny

    I hear you.
    Fuck emacs, vi for life!

  14. And with the award money... by Edward+Kmett · · Score: 4, Funny

    Asked what he was going to do with the award money, the artist said "I'll finally be able to afford Photoshop!" ;)

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  15. Re:Fuck Python, no, Fuck C# by hclewk · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So, basically, shovels are better than back hoes because with a shovel you can make both small and big holes, but with back-hoes, you can only make big holes. However, what you aren't taking into account is that while backhoes can't make small holes, they are way more efficient at making big ones.

    And just for the record, a "small hole" is a low-level project, such as an operating system, and a "big hole" is a higher-level system, like a software program.

    I'm not saying that C# is better than C, just that they have different purposes and are therefore better at different things.

  16. Re:Fuck Python, no, Fuck C# by amorsen · · Score: 4, Funny

    it's also an extended version of "ed" that is a very useful tool.

    Yesterday my Fedora 9 updater told me that I had a security update.

    For ed.

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