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Discuss the US Presidential Election & Health Care
Yesterday we discussed the war and how foreign policy will matter in your decision next Tuesday. Today our series of election discussion pieces continues with Health Care. With an obesity epidemic, a failing economy, and ballooning health care costs, which candidate has the best answers to making sure that Americans are able to stay healthy without America being bankrupted in the process?
Obama's plan should scare you to death if your big. First, lets assume that we will not only have obama, but the house and senate will also be dem.
This may not be your scenario, but it will be for many.
1. You get gov health care.
2. Gov raises taxes on small busisnesses.
3. Your employer discontinues health care because of increased taxes, tells you to use gov care. (Hey, it's better than them firing you.)
4. Goverment says (And this has been kicked around, it's not that far fetched.) "This health care is expensive for out of shape people, lets tell them to get in shape or they don't get care"
5. You don't meet their BMI... you can't get health care.
#4/5 is not something obama plans on doing, but there are some powerful people in the senate who have said they want to do this. Without someone to keep them in check, it's very possible.
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There, fixed it for you.
it is acceptable that people not have healthcare in this society, please move to the third world, where you routinely see people dying on the street of diseases and conditions requiring 50 cents and fifteeen minutes of medical attention
i mean, by saying you think some people should not have healthcare, you are openly saying you don't care baout your society
and if you don't care boaut your society, why do you expect to continue deriving benefits from it? you don't care baout society's health. ok
well then, we should stop caring about you
get off our roads
stop using our currency
stop using our electricity
stop using our transportation
oh, what? these are magical things that exist outside of a society that cares about itself and takes care of itself?
no, the truth is, your a blind selfish fuck, who wishes to deny that which takes care of him
you don't have a valid opinion or point of view, because you have no logical coherence or moral integrity
you are talking about issues you don't care about. in which case you should prove how much you really don't care, and SHUT UP
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
the healthcare system as it stands allows for irresponsible behavior with repercussions for unrelated parties. Someone gets stuck footing the bill and theres no good framework to address it currently. Its imbalanced.
Hey, you've just discovered a fantastic way to get votes! I'll just promise to tax the crap out of one group of people -- people who work hard, create jobs, and contribute to the economy by spending and investments -- and give it to another group of people who haven't earned it. The former group will be responsible for the actions of the latter group! The former group will typically be smaller than the latter group, thus I can always be assured of winning any election! The former group will be unable to do anything about it for the same reason.
I think a certain politician is advocating this right now. What's his name? Gosh, it just slips my mind. It's that guy who wants to "spread the wealth around." I think his name is "Senator Change" or "Senator Hope."
In the end they will lay their freedom at our feet and say to us, Make us your slaves, but feed us. - Fyodor Dostoyevsky
But the NHS _is_ filthy. See
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/mrsa
There's an epidemic of iatrogenic infections in NHS hospitals because of lax hygiene standards.
Sure, you may be fine with it (you may find rotting teeth sexually attractive, too), but we're a bit more obsessed with avoiding infections here in the US (also with perfect teeth).
Luckily, I made good choices early in life, so I don't have to decide between eating and paying rent. Those who are stuck in that position, probably did something to put themselves there. Life's tough, buy a helmet.
"A claim for equality of material position can be met only by a government with totalitarian powers." Hayek
McCain hasn't "suckled" at any government "teat." Health insurance was part of his compensation for his work in the Navy and in Congress. That is, he earned it. Considering the distinction with which he earned it regarding his Navy service, I'd suggest barking up another tree.
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False. I've seen the total Gas Tax collected, and the amount collected *exceeds* the amount spent. About 80% is used to fund highways. The remaining 20% surplus is added to the treasury.
The government is not your daddy. Its purpose is not to raid middle-class neighbors' wallets and give it to you.