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Private Firm Plots Robotic Lunar Exploration

DeviceGuru writes "Astrobotic Technology has unveiled plans for a series of robotic expeditions to the Moon. The lunar rovers will explore high-interest areas of the Moon's surface and beam the data back to the Earth. The plan is to accumulate an extensive library of lunar data and sell it to governments and private corporations (PDF), much as Navteq's data forms the backbone of most terrestrial GPS services. Astrobotic's first goal is to win Google's $30 million Lunar X Prize, with a May, 2010 trip to the Apollo 11 landing site at Mare Tranquillitatis."

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  1. That's my moon! by astrodoom · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I wonder how governments will attempt to regulate space once it becomes a truly commercial frontier (I mean aside from orbit). On the one hand, I'm against regulations on what is essentially just an un-owned patch of "space". On the other hand though...it'd be scary to have any company that can afford to send things to the moon or into space. I mean, that much equipment just floating around out there and something's bound to go catasrophically wrong.

    1. Re:That's my moon! by gregbot9000 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      What will happen in space is you'll get a few large companies that get people to sign contracts with them that cover their cost to orbit. The cost will be so high it will put people so far in debt that they have to sign away their freedom, and work for the company as property for several generations.

      A few will be able to earn their freedom. Those that earn their freedom will settle in cities and become merchants and prosper. These merchants power will come to rival the corporations which by that time will have become inefficient and corrupt, but the corps. will control the the law and use it to support their power.

      This control will ultimately be challenged by a revolutions lead by the middling merchant class and made up of the poor contract workers around the year 2775.

      The revolution will be successful and force everyone to follow the same laws, and turn the governing of the land over to the law which will be written in a representitive collective fashion, removing the power of corrupt officials to rule by mandate. Then everything will be peachy utile the wealthy discover that they can just buy the representitives who write the laws and create a system that benefits themselves handsomely, they will even learn that all they need to do to silence any criticism of that system is accuse it's critics of being a straw man called co-prosperitalism.

  2. Wow Red Whittaker CEO by wjsteele · · Score: 4, Informative

    With Red Whittaker as the CEO, I'm sure this company can do what it says. If you're not familar with Red, his robots have been doing great things for many years. For example, it was Red's robots that helped clean up Three Mile Island after the accident there, as well as Chernobyl. His team at Carnegie Mellen also won the Darpa Grand Challange for developing a vehicle that could navigate autonomously. (The previous year, he took 2nd and 3rd place in the same challenge.)

    So... I guess after he achieves this, we'll have a "Red Moon" after all!

    Bill

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  3. AND they have a real plan to make money. by RustinHWright · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I agree that this is the right team. But what's just as delightful, and make no mistake, delight is an understated way to describe what I think of this news, is that they're clearly thinking of this not as a "mission" but as a task set to bootstrap a business able to pay its own way. I particularly like that they're not using the oh-so-annoying sop of "space tourism". Afaic, "space tourism" is pretty much like twenties barnstorming. Iow, "we've got this amazing technology that we aren't using seriously at the moment so while we get our act in gear we'll kill time, keep ourselves busy, and make beer money giving people rides on our cool vehicles".

    Personally, I've been pushing the idea of private organizations exploring with clusters of small robotic missions for years now, I've even ranted at my friends about it, so how could I not be pleased?

    I wonder how long it will take for the mainstream media and legislators to claim that they've backed this approach all along

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  4. If it's not manned... by Gonoff · · Score: 4, Interesting

    it can't be called exploration.

    Machines are used to investigate. Self aware beings explore.

    The human race stopped exploring the moon in 1972. Mars has been investigated, which is good, but never explored, which is not.

    The reason that people with european ancestors can be found on every continent is because those ancestors explored. Minute fragments of culture from Europe are still to be found all over the "New World". Whether those 2 facts are a good thing or not is a separate debate.

    If human culture and DNA is to survive, we need to explore. Finding out what is elsewhere is only a small part of it.

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    1. Re:If it's not manned... by Hurricane78 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I call bullshit on your artificial separation of exploration and investigation for space travel.

      Who do you think controls those machines? "Self-aware" beings like us. Even programs are just well planned lists of actions that a human would do, if he were there. This is not that far away from a delayed control.

      It's a sad day when even people here on Slashdot use "but, the computer did it" arguments. You're supposed to know this better. Or you must be new here. ;)

      Oh, and by the way: Self-awareness is no feature that some creatures have, and some don't. Like with the question if something is alive, there are infinite steps in between. And maybe it's even just an artefact of how we see ourselves and justify free will.

      "fragments can be found..." is an irrelevant strawman argument, with no relation to the terms "investigate" and "explore".

      Your real point is, that we should spread our DNA.
      Well... on that I agree... it's the point of our existence.
      But don't forget the second level of procreation: The spreading of philosophies, world views, thoughts and knowledge.
      I argue, that if we once create a robot civilization on another planet, that lives like we do, and loves what we love,
      then our fleshy bodies could die, and we would still have survived.
      (Of course, by then, we could be able to read the content of brains and transfer it to that planet via some radio system, to embed it into androids.)

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    2. Re:If it's not manned... by ceejayoz · · Score: 4, Insightful

      We already know that Earth is our only hope for sustaining the human race inside the solar system.

      No, we don't.

      We know it's the only one we can go outside with a t-shirt on, but it's hardly our only hope for sustaining the human race.

      If we needed to, we could create self-sustaining bases on Mars, the Moon, some of the Jovian moons, etc. Sure, we wouldn't be able to go outside and breathe fresh air, but humanity could survive.

  5. Lunokhod 1 and 2 by mbone · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Lunkhod (or Lunakhod) 1 and 2 roved around on the Moon in the 1970's, with the second rover covering over 40 km (more than the current Mars Rovers combined).

    Here are some pictures from the mission.

    Lunkhod 2 has a laser retroreflector package that is used for laser laser ranging (LLR) along with 3 Apollo LLR retroreflector packages; these 4 sites together determine the Moon's orbit to the order of centimeters and are thus crucial in a number of scientific investigations ranging from pure physics to Lunar dynamics.

    As a PS, I would strongly urge any exploration of the Apollo 11 site to stay well away from its LLR retroreflectors, as moving them by even a mm could cause problems interpreting that data.

  6. boy are they going to be disappointed by Trailer+Trash · · Score: 3, Funny

    when they find the moon landing was a hoax and they're the first ones there.

    Of course, maybe they're in bed with NASA, who'll let them use the same sound stage where they filmed the apollo landing, and it'll be a double hoax!

  7. IGS by mbone · · Score: 3, Informative

    much as Navteq's data forms the backbone of most terrestrial GPS services

    Define "most." I think that the people who run the International GNSS Service (IGS) would disagree with you.

  8. Ever read the outer space treaty? by slew · · Score: 3, Informative

    The Outer Space Treaty which is the first basic attempt to regulate space is pretty much like the concept behind International Waters. The gist of Articles 6 and 7 are that governments are responsible for their citizens and corporate entities operation in outer space. If you need an analogy, this is sort of like how your parents are legally responsible for your actions when you are a child.

    As for the equipment just floating around and something going catestrophically wrong, well, just look at the junk floating around earth's orbit, you don't have to imagine it, it's already real. In many respects it's no different than the great pacific garbage patch.

    These happenings are perhaps one of the best illustrations of the Tragedy of the Commons effect. There are many sides to this argument about the commons. Feel free to discuss amongst yourselves ;^)