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Silencing a Hard Drive Using Household Items

Reader Justblair recommends his blog entry detailing how he made a hard drive silencer for a pittance. "This article demonstrates a very easy-to-make hard drive silencer that not only outperforms most commercially available devices, but is cheaper to implement as well. Requiring very little in fabrication skills, it is an ideal addition to a media PC or HTPC. It may even suit you if your head is aching after many hours of being whined at by your hard drive."

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  1. i have never found hard drive noise a problem by wjh31 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    the fans are the noisiest part of my computer, and always have been on any computer ive ever had. However i do occationally hear the click-click of the head moving, but never the whine of the platters, will this sort that out too?

    ive seen another hard drive silencing technique elsewhere that's even cheaper, although possibly not quite as effective, which is simply to mount it with rubber bands in a 5.25" bay rather than screws.
    http://www.spodesabode.com/archive/content/article/hddnoise

    1. Re:i have never found hard drive noise a problem by squidinkcalligraphy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Most of the time I can't hear the fans in my media box as it's running cool enough not to spin them up very fast (high load in the middle of summer is an exception).

      But I get a high-pitched whine from the HD's spinning vibrating the entire case (which acts like an amplifier of sorts). If you're old enough I spose you wouldn't hear it. But being the spring chicken I am, I can hear it. By decoupling the HD from the case by suspending it in elastic it completely silences the box.

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    2. Re:i have never found hard drive noise a problem by digitalhermit · · Score: 2, Interesting

      One thing that may or may not be a factor... At least on my cases if I touch the mounting bracket it's usually quite warm. In other words, it seems that mounting the drives normally plays a part in cooling down the drive itself.

    3. Re:i have never found hard drive noise a problem by dayton967 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      One problem with Elastic Bands, is that they dry out and become brittle over time, the vibration could in itself cause them to break. To prevent this, it would require going in on a regular basis and replacing the elastic bands, or adding moisture to them.

    4. Re:i have never found hard drive noise a problem by ParanoiaBOTS · · Score: 2, Interesting

      the fans are the noisiest part of my computer, and always have been on any computer ive ever had. However i do occationally hear the click-click of the head moving, but never the whine of the platters, will this sort that out too? ive seen another hard drive silencing technique elsewhere that's even cheaper, although possibly not quite as effective, which is simply to mount it with rubber bands in a 5.25" bay rather than screws. http://www.spodesabode.com/archive/content/article/hddnoise

      So buy some low decibel fans? You can get fans that are near noiseless and still move a decent amount of air. One simple solution is to simply move to a larger size fan as well. Either get a case that supports the bigger fans, or a hole saw. 120mm versus 80mm push a lot more air, at lower RPM and are thus are usually much quieter

    5. Re:i have never found hard drive noise a problem by BillAtHRST · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Clever idea, but rubber bands do have a tendency to get brittle over time.

    6. Re:i have never found hard drive noise a problem by lysergic.acid · · Score: 2, Interesting

      i've got a 4-year-old Dell Dimension desktop. it's not a silent computer per se, but it was extremely quiet when i first got it. however, perhaps due to being frequently moved around, shipped from Chicago to LA, or bumped into too much, the system is now extremely loud and annoying.

      at first i mistook the noise for drive thrashing, so i thought that one of my hard drives was just dying on me (it was an old hard drive, and i was having a lot of disk problems). but after replacing the drive with a brand new one and having the noise persist, i examined the computer while it was running to see where the noise was really coming from.

      that's when i discovered that the noise was actually coming from the cooling funnel that sits over the CPU. the large (~90mm) exhaust fan that's attached to it was causing the plastic funnel to vibrate. i guess the hinges on the cooling funnel wore down or loosened over time so that the entire funnel unit can vibrate much more.

      the fan itself and even the hard drives aren't that loud, so i guess i have to either remove the cooling funnel or do something to dampen the vibration.

    7. Re:i have never found hard drive noise a problem by rs79 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Rubber bads age, harden and break. Nonetheless this is the way milspec drives are isolated.

      Try using rubber muffler mounts from a 126 chassis Mercedes. Any dealer has them stupid cheap. You need two, just cut them in half. Use thick braided wire in looks to secire the frame to the rubber and rubber to the drive.

      There. That cost your military 5 million dollars 20 years ago to learn that. Isn't it great what you can find on the net for free?

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    8. Re:i have never found hard drive noise a problem by FractalZone · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The loose rubber grommets which attach my drives serve the same purpose. The screw inserts directly through, but it only has enough turns to keep the disk from falling out.

      I can't remember which case it is, but it should be difficult to spot from would be myth box builders.

      As someone pointed out above, it is the direct metal to metal connection from the noisy drive to the case that transfers most of the sound and the case often works as sort of an acoustic amplifier, much the way the horn on an old gramophone does, especially if some part of the case (usually one of the side panels) resonates at some (sub)harmonic of the frequency at which one of the drives is vibrating.

      In the past, I've actually solved drive vibration noise problems by the simple expedient of taking a 3.5" HD and wrapping it in enough plush carpet remnants to that it will fit snugly into a 5.25" drive bay. This will also muffle the whine of spinning disks and moving heads to some extent -- usually a lot, in my experience.

      If you look at many (most?) hard drives you will see a little hole with what looks like a filter of some sort beneath it. It is there for a reason, namely pressure changes due to weather or relocation of the drive from one altitude to another. When attempting to stifle hard drive noise, you do not want to seal this venturi by covering it with tape or a gel pack attached tighly enough to prevent the drive from "breathing"; a horrible analogy, I know, but the only better one I can think of is that the drive uses that heavily filtered venturi to equalize its internal air pressure to that of its environment much the way your ears pop (especially if you yawn) when the pressure in an airplane, tram, cable car, elevator, etc. changes significantly as you move up or down.

      Cooling fans, especially if you use a lot of them instead of more esoteric means of preventing CPUs, GPUs, and high-performance HDs from overheating, tend to make a lot of noise. Most stock cooling fans are really cheap and don't have terribly great bearings or advanced blade designs. It is often worth it to pay more for high end fans which are designed to move air efficiently (which implies more silently, if you think about it -- the energy wasted making a lot of noise is wasted energy). Blowing the dust off the fan blades every few months will make the fans quieter, too.

      Mr. Wizard (not an acoustic engineer, but can fake it :-)

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    9. Re:i have never found hard drive noise a problem by FractalZone · · Score: 2, Interesting

      duct tape!

      That might work to prevent the funnel from vibrating but I'd also consider carefully applying a thin bead of (non-conducting) silicone seal; the kind that one can peal off a smooth hard surface with a screwdriver or a knife very easily. I would use high-quality electrical tape before I'd use duct tape because the latter usually leaves behind a bunch of sticky adhesive if you need to remove it for some reason, as does some cheap electrical tape.

      I've never owned a Dull computer (most, but not all, of them are grossly overprices pieces of crap, IMHO) but have administered many dozens of them over the years and I do not like the way the ductwork (funnel) is set up on a lot of them.

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  2. Super-Heated by Chris+Rhodes · · Score: 3, Interesting

    He's lucky his drive lasted that long. I've yet to see a maxtor or a seagate inside of one of their enclosures last that long. Having taken them apart, I saw that the seagate one was completely covered, multiple times, with no airflow.

    Those things get way too hot. My mom has a new hard drive (as of this summer) with three directories of files recovered from signatures. Nasty.

    Drives should be covered with moving air. They should also be mounted to the ground plane (which is the PC case.)

  3. The catch is by Kupfernigk · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Hard drives are designed for air cooling, not conduction. That's why those little circuit boards are exposed on the outside of the drive. (Conduction cooled circuit boards do exist, especially in military systems, where expensive machined conduction plates are bonded to the upper surface, but you won't find those in commercial electronics.) Putting a gel pack on the circuit board may cool some components adequately while leaving others uncooled.

    There is a reason why Apple uses (used to use) FEA programs to design the cooling systems of their computers, and it is not marketing. In the good old days, you often found bad engineering practices in cheap PCs - such as the hard drive being screwed wrong side down to the chassis - and it was then not unusual for them to work OK as a desktop but fail quickly if used as a server, because the HDD was now actually doing some work.

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  4. cat hair by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I've got about 6 years worth of cat hair coating my hard drive and it's very quiet now... also heats my feet during the winter... you get used the smell after the first year...

  5. More DIY Hard Disk Drive Silencing Techniques by wehe · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Here are some more do-it-yourself tutorials about hard disk drive silencing techniques as well as about selfmade cooling techniques. The ideas are ranging from an acoustic cabinet, switching off the HDD when not in use to cure vibration (the main cause of noise) with some rubber and others.

  6. I've found a better solution a few years ago by wtarreau · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I simply cut some pipe insulation foam in halves, and rolled both parts around the disk, one near the front side, one near the rear side. I used some electric wire around the foam to hold it in place. Now my 3"5 disk fits perfectly in a 5"25 slot in front of the case's fan, and the foam's thickness prevents it from moving. I can't hear it *at all* now, eventhough it's a SCSI 15k rpm, because the noise from the motor normally conducts through the metal and the fixations only.

    It requires very little material, skills and time to do this, and the disk can be
    extracted at any moment without hassle.

  7. Re:Maybe it's just me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    And 9 times out of 10, a person who can hear those things is in their twenties or younger. The ability to hear those very high pitched sounds goes away with age. Of course, there are exceptions. I'm in my 40's and can still hear them.

  8. Re:Maybe it's just me... by Curtman · · Score: 3, Interesting

    My old roommate had a television that emitted a horrendous (to me anyway) screaching sound which he had never noticed before somehow. He claims now that I've pointed it out to him it's unbearable to him too, so he gave the TV to his sister, and nobody in her family knows about it. I'm very curious if they can be "trained" to hear it as well.

  9. Re:RTA, he does suspend them. by billcopc · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Actually you can have a silent PC with silent fans. The standard is 20dB at one metre (3 ft). Those 3 feet are what enable a quiet PC to become a silent PC.

    Turn just about any good fan down to 800rpm or less, and it becomes nearly inaudible in free air. Once you combine such a quiet fan with the PC's chassis resonance (on a good chassis), the chassis' acoustic properties will effectively shape the noise (like a bandpass speaker box). Some of that noise gets muffled internally, some of it gets dispersed at the vents, and ideally very little sound will reach your ears.

    Making a quiet PC is easy, because off-the-shelf components have gotten very quiet over the years. Making a silent PC is more like building an awesome loudspeaker - there's a lot of planning, acoustic measurements and math involved to meet your sonic goal.

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  10. Re:Easier yet to suspend drives by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    The problem with that technique is that it won't dissipate heat very well. I had a similar setup until one day I checked the temperatures of the drives which were running at 50+C. Fans help a little but then you're negating the point of silencing the drive.

    Drives dissipate heat through the sides which works best if there is a heatsink either in the form of a the metal computer case or some sort of harddrive specific heatsink.

  11. Re:I don't mind a little bit of noise from a HDD by zippthorne · · Score: 2, Interesting

    That's a UI design issue. If there was an on-screen indication that "things are happening" or even a "magic keystroke" that overrides the normal gui and pop in and out of some kind of general system activity display in all cases where the kernel isn't frozen, then you wouldn't need to rely on design flaws of other systems to give you the necessary feedback.

    But since that doesn't really exist, at least not conveniently, I've also used the HDD noise as a valuable diagnostic tool. Now, if only I'd bought better PSU and CPU fans, I'd be able to actually hear it without straining...

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  12. Re:how I silenced my computer(s) by n2rjt · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I did the same thing five years ago, at the height of noisy desktops. My bedroom computer is now in my closet, with the monitor/keyboard/speakers/mouse/etc on a desk on the other side of the wall.

    The only problem is that my new computer is so quiet that the whole arrangement seems silly.

  13. Re:RTA, he does suspend them. by Mike610544 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Hard drives get pretty hot, and high temperatures will shorten their lifespan.

    Google did some pretty comprehensive testing and found this not to be true. The well cooled drives actually failed more than moderately hot ones (at really high temperatures the failure rate started to climb again.)

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  14. Re:RTA, he does suspend them. by FractalZone · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Embedding in gel looked like a pretty bad idea. Hard drives get pretty hot, and high temperatures will shorten their lifespan.

    That's a very good point. The trick I've used to quiet ordinary 5400RPM or 7200RPM IDE and EIDE drives by wrapping them in plush carpet would be bad for a drive that tends to run hot and the carpet will not conduct the heat away from the drive to the case.

    Some of the Miniscribe and Microscience SCSI drives I've had in the past ran *VERY*hot...I mean hot enough that they were uncomfortable to hold for very long while or just after they'd been busy for awhile. IRRC, it was the pair of old (brand new and state-of-the-art at the time) 9GB 10,000RPM Miniscribe drives I had in one machine that died of head crashes due to heat death. An engineer I had reason to believe told me that in order to cram 10GB of capacity onto what was then a very fast SCSI drive, Miniscribe had to use platters that were so large that their edges were almost rubbing the inside of the drive case. Apparently, Miniscribe didn't take thermal expansion into consideration and one many of these drives the platters would expand enough that their edges scrapped against the inside of the drive case, creating a fine dust which would eventually find its way between the heads and the platter surfaces, causing a head crash.

    While I can't verify that explanation, it fits what I observed. One of the pair of drives was mounted directly over the other and it was from that drive I heard the distinct sounds and noticed the erratic drive performance that precede a lot of head crashes. The at drive died first in a very noisy way (I'd been making frequent made backups of both since I first heard the strange whining sounds), followed a couple of weeks later by the drive below it. The lower drive exhibited the same failure mode but died rather suddenly, unlike the upper drive which went though noisy death throes for many weeks.

    That stands to reason as the lower drive's waste heat was rising and thus increasing the temperature of the drive above it. The upper drive was used as a "data" drive while the lower one held the WinNT OS and all the software programs.

    I suppose the problem was partly my fault because I did nothing special to keep the drives cool since I had no idea they tended to run so much hotter than the lower performance drives I'd been using up to that point. Adding an extra case fan or even just a better case fan and separating the drives by an open bay might have kept them running for a long time instead of about a year or so.

    I can say one thing for sure: the sound of a 10,000RPM head crash is truly annoying, almost agonizing, especially when combined with the noise from another one that is imminent.

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