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Silencing a Hard Drive Using Household Items

Reader Justblair recommends his blog entry detailing how he made a hard drive silencer for a pittance. "This article demonstrates a very easy-to-make hard drive silencer that not only outperforms most commercially available devices, but is cheaper to implement as well. Requiring very little in fabrication skills, it is an ideal addition to a media PC or HTPC. It may even suit you if your head is aching after many hours of being whined at by your hard drive."

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  1. Haven't read TFA by bcmm · · Score: 5, Funny

    Does it involve bludgeoning with any number of common household items?

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    1. Re:Haven't read TFA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Does it involve bludgeoning with any number of common household items?

      Only if you use reiserfs on the disk.

    2. Re:Haven't read TFA by jimdread · · Score: 5, Informative

      No, he put the hard drive in a big aluminium case, with those gel cooling bags surrounding the drive. Sorry, I just spoiled the whole thing. That's pretty much all it says.

    3. Re:Haven't read TFA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Gel cooling bags?! Pfft. Real men use socks.

    4. Re:Haven't read TFA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      too soon.

  2. i have never found hard drive noise a problem by wjh31 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    the fans are the noisiest part of my computer, and always have been on any computer ive ever had. However i do occationally hear the click-click of the head moving, but never the whine of the platters, will this sort that out too?

    ive seen another hard drive silencing technique elsewhere that's even cheaper, although possibly not quite as effective, which is simply to mount it with rubber bands in a 5.25" bay rather than screws.
    http://www.spodesabode.com/archive/content/article/hddnoise

    1. Re:i have never found hard drive noise a problem by tsjaikdus · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well, sulky, then apply this technology to your fans. Put them in a box, pour in a lot of cooling gel and voila.

    2. Re:i have never found hard drive noise a problem by deniable · · Score: 4, Funny

      Make sure you seal the box. It's the key to keeping fan noise down.

    3. Re:i have never found hard drive noise a problem by Cylix · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Larger slower fans are pretty much the key for noise to displacement ratio.

      I've been fairly happy with my antec case which even incluedes a very very large fan at the top of the case.

      My only complaint is these fans are managed via switch attached to each fan. Sure, I never have to turn them up, but let the board regulate the flow would be better.

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    4. Re:i have never found hard drive noise a problem by billcopc · · Score: 3, Informative

      Same here. Hard drive noise is a non-issue for me, despite having a dozen under my desk. Now, older hard drives had an annoying whine, but today's gear is near-silent.

      Take any consumer drive from the last 2-3 years, mount it sanely, either via grommets or elastic suspension as the parent suggested, and the only time you might hear something is when it is spinning up at power-on. Once it reaches normal operating revs, that thing should be noiseless.

      I just built a bunch of office machines, simple little things really. Core-2 Duo, WD 500gb drive, Antec chassis... Those cheap little things are perfectly noiseless, I shit you not. You could stick your ear right up to the hard drive and barely hear the modest clicking of the heads seeking around. In fact, the Antec 120mm fan, even at 800rpm, is easily the loudest component. Now, Antec doesn't make the quietest fans, but they're certainly in the Top 5.

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    5. Re:i have never found hard drive noise a problem by ScottCooperDotNet · · Score: 3, Informative

      Rubber bands will eventually dry out and then your HDD goes for an unexpected drop inside the case. No thanks!

    6. Re:i have never found hard drive noise a problem by urbanriot · · Score: 5, Informative

      I second your suggestion to use rubber grommets. Even the loudest 10k raptor drives are silenced by long screws in rubber grommets. Antec knows this, that's why they include them with almost every single one of their chassis. Chenbro uses some screws with rubber pads on them as well.

    7. Re:i have never found hard drive noise a problem by ColdWetDog · · Score: 3, Funny

      With 10,000 rpm and even 15,000 rpm hard drives in the wild things can get noisy.

      What's with you kids these days? Hard disks belong in the computer, not running hither and yon around the room. Lack of discipline causes all these problems, I say!

      Show me a nice, well restrained hard drive and I'll show you a nice, well behaved hard drive. Take the time to teach your computer discipline - you'll be glad you did.

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    8. Re:i have never found hard drive noise a problem by Walpurgiss · · Score: 3, Informative

      Some of Antec's power supplies, like the True Control II-550 have a motherboard fan power and a few dedicated 4 pin molex fan only plugs. The motherboard plug lets the power supply use the motherboard temperature readings to adjust the voltage to the attached fans.

      It also comes with an optional 5-1/4 bay panel with 4 dials that let you control minimum fan voltage, vcore, and one other voltages.

      I guess not exactly the same as direct motherboard control, but then you don't need like 4 chassis fan headers on the board to achieve a similar effect. If you have those 3 position Low/Med/High fans antec sells, they suggest setting it to High if using the TrueControl II to control them.

      http://www.antec.com/usa/productDetails.php?lan=us&id=22552

    9. Re:i have never found hard drive noise a problem by sbeckstead · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I find the key to keeping fan noise down is to wear noise canceling headphones and turn the pocket radio up slightly. Voila no fan noise and I can watch the game with a nice commentary to boot. This even works to quiet wife noise and kid noise. No messy gels involved.

    10. Re:i have never found hard drive noise a problem by sbeckstead · · Score: 5, Funny

      >Larger slower fans are pretty much the key for noise to displacement ratio.

      Much easier to outrun but they do more damage if they catch you.

    11. Re:i have never found hard drive noise a problem by Webs+101 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Grommets are always silent, but what starts to grate on me is the whining and grumbling from the Wallace.

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    12. Re:i have never found hard drive noise a problem by wolftone · · Score: 4, Funny

      I find quieting wife and kids with messy gels not only effective, but quite satisfying.

    13. Re:i have never found hard drive noise a problem by FractalZone · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The loose rubber grommets which attach my drives serve the same purpose. The screw inserts directly through, but it only has enough turns to keep the disk from falling out.

      I can't remember which case it is, but it should be difficult to spot from would be myth box builders.

      As someone pointed out above, it is the direct metal to metal connection from the noisy drive to the case that transfers most of the sound and the case often works as sort of an acoustic amplifier, much the way the horn on an old gramophone does, especially if some part of the case (usually one of the side panels) resonates at some (sub)harmonic of the frequency at which one of the drives is vibrating.

      In the past, I've actually solved drive vibration noise problems by the simple expedient of taking a 3.5" HD and wrapping it in enough plush carpet remnants to that it will fit snugly into a 5.25" drive bay. This will also muffle the whine of spinning disks and moving heads to some extent -- usually a lot, in my experience.

      If you look at many (most?) hard drives you will see a little hole with what looks like a filter of some sort beneath it. It is there for a reason, namely pressure changes due to weather or relocation of the drive from one altitude to another. When attempting to stifle hard drive noise, you do not want to seal this venturi by covering it with tape or a gel pack attached tighly enough to prevent the drive from "breathing"; a horrible analogy, I know, but the only better one I can think of is that the drive uses that heavily filtered venturi to equalize its internal air pressure to that of its environment much the way your ears pop (especially if you yawn) when the pressure in an airplane, tram, cable car, elevator, etc. changes significantly as you move up or down.

      Cooling fans, especially if you use a lot of them instead of more esoteric means of preventing CPUs, GPUs, and high-performance HDs from overheating, tend to make a lot of noise. Most stock cooling fans are really cheap and don't have terribly great bearings or advanced blade designs. It is often worth it to pay more for high end fans which are designed to move air efficiently (which implies more silently, if you think about it -- the energy wasted making a lot of noise is wasted energy). Blowing the dust off the fan blades every few months will make the fans quieter, too.

      Mr. Wizard (not an acoustic engineer, but can fake it :-)

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    14. Re:i have never found hard drive noise a problem by steelfood · · Score: 3, Funny

      I'm just curious, but what kind of gel do you use to silence your wife and kids?

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    15. Re:i have never found hard drive noise a problem by Merlin843 · · Score: 3, Funny

      He probably uses KY jell for his wife. hmmmmmm

  3. Solution by NXprime · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Or you could just buy some newer hard drives out there with high ariel density. WD 640GB AAKS model & 1TB drives are practically dead silent. That or buy some SSD's. Really this noise issue is beginning to lose importance these days and that's the point I'm trying to make here.

    1. Re:Solution by novakreo · · Score: 4, Funny

      Or you could just buy some newer hard drives out there with high ariel density.

      So how many mermaids can they fit into a hard drive these days?

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  4. Super-Heated by Chris+Rhodes · · Score: 3, Interesting

    He's lucky his drive lasted that long. I've yet to see a maxtor or a seagate inside of one of their enclosures last that long. Having taken them apart, I saw that the seagate one was completely covered, multiple times, with no airflow.

    Those things get way too hot. My mom has a new hard drive (as of this summer) with three directories of files recovered from signatures. Nasty.

    Drives should be covered with moving air. They should also be mounted to the ground plane (which is the PC case.)

  5. RTA, he does suspend them. by Kludge · · Score: 3, Informative

    He embeds them in gel and he suspends them with elastic.

    1. Re:RTA, he does suspend them. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      He embeds them in gel and he suspends them with elastic.

      Kinky!

    2. Re:RTA, he does suspend them. by The+Yuckinator · · Score: 4, Funny

      In a silent PC no one can hear you scream.

    3. Re:RTA, he does suspend them. by billcopc · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Actually you can have a silent PC with silent fans. The standard is 20dB at one metre (3 ft). Those 3 feet are what enable a quiet PC to become a silent PC.

      Turn just about any good fan down to 800rpm or less, and it becomes nearly inaudible in free air. Once you combine such a quiet fan with the PC's chassis resonance (on a good chassis), the chassis' acoustic properties will effectively shape the noise (like a bandpass speaker box). Some of that noise gets muffled internally, some of it gets dispersed at the vents, and ideally very little sound will reach your ears.

      Making a quiet PC is easy, because off-the-shelf components have gotten very quiet over the years. Making a silent PC is more like building an awesome loudspeaker - there's a lot of planning, acoustic measurements and math involved to meet your sonic goal.

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  6. cooling pads + box by lobiusmoop · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm not sure that the 'cooling pads plus box' enclosure is a good idea. It looks like it will make the drive less efficient at radiating heat away. Might lead to overheating, especially in the fanless system in the article.

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  7. The catch is by Kupfernigk · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Hard drives are designed for air cooling, not conduction. That's why those little circuit boards are exposed on the outside of the drive. (Conduction cooled circuit boards do exist, especially in military systems, where expensive machined conduction plates are bonded to the upper surface, but you won't find those in commercial electronics.) Putting a gel pack on the circuit board may cool some components adequately while leaving others uncooled.

    There is a reason why Apple uses (used to use) FEA programs to design the cooling systems of their computers, and it is not marketing. In the good old days, you often found bad engineering practices in cheap PCs - such as the hard drive being screwed wrong side down to the chassis - and it was then not unusual for them to work OK as a desktop but fail quickly if used as a server, because the HDD was now actually doing some work.

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  8. Re:Maybe it's just me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Generally, people who can hear the high-pitched whine of a TV or the whine of transformers can also hear hard drives whine and find all the whining noise annoying. People going deaf won't know what the hell I am talking about.

  9. cat hair by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I've got about 6 years worth of cat hair coating my hard drive and it's very quiet now... also heats my feet during the winter... you get used the smell after the first year...

  10. Re:I don't mind a little bit of noise from a HDD by Wiseazz · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's a bit like a car engine - you know what your machine is supposed to sound like. When it doesn't, then you investigate.

    Unfortunately, my Xbox is apparently supposed to sound like an overloaded 747 during takeoff... (I work near a UPS hub - I can take a fresh comparison every half-hour or so during the day).

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  11. I've found a better solution a few years ago by wtarreau · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I simply cut some pipe insulation foam in halves, and rolled both parts around the disk, one near the front side, one near the rear side. I used some electric wire around the foam to hold it in place. Now my 3"5 disk fits perfectly in a 5"25 slot in front of the case's fan, and the foam's thickness prevents it from moving. I can't hear it *at all* now, eventhough it's a SCSI 15k rpm, because the noise from the motor normally conducts through the metal and the fixations only.

    It requires very little material, skills and time to do this, and the disk can be
    extracted at any moment without hassle.

  12. A less recommended apporach by cvd6262 · · Score: 3, Funny

    It may even suit you if your head is aching after many hours of being whined at by your hard drive.

    Yeah, see, I was getting tired of hearing my hard drive whine, but rather than dampen the noise coming from it, I decided to drown it out: I had kids.

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  13. 403 Forbidden by houghi · · Score: 4, Funny

    So it seems that they just prohibit access to the drive.

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  14. Re:Maybe it's just me... by Curtman · · Score: 3, Interesting

    My old roommate had a television that emitted a horrendous (to me anyway) screaching sound which he had never noticed before somehow. He claims now that I've pointed it out to him it's unbearable to him too, so he gave the TV to his sister, and nobody in her family knows about it. I'm very curious if they can be "trained" to hear it as well.

  15. Slashdotted - instructions below by MadCow42 · · Score: 4, Funny

    1. post story to slashdot
    2. watch server burst into flames
    3. apply fire extinguisher liberally
    4. enjoy perfectly quietened hard drive noises

    (there's no "profit" in there... I must've missed a step!)

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  16. Slashdotted! Mirror here by elzbal · · Score: 3, Informative

    The story is mirrored here: Silencing a hard drive

    (The pictures couldn't be salvaged from the original story.)