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New Type of Particle May Have Been Found

An anonymous reader writes "The LHC is out of commission, but the Tevatron collider at Fermilab is still chugging along, and may have just discovered a new type of particle that would signal new physics. New Scientist reports that the Tevatron's CDF detector has found muons that seem to have been created outside of the beam pipe that confines the protons and anti-protons being smashed together. The standard model can't explain the muons, and some speculate that 'an unknown particle with a lifetime of about 20 picoseconds was produced in the collision, traveled about 1 centimeter, through the side of the beam pipe, and then decayed into muons.' The hypothetical particle even seems to have the right mass to account for one theory of dark matter."

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  1. More data, less hype at arxiv by jfengel · · Score: 5, Informative

    The New Scientist article points to a paper at arxiv:

    http://arxiv.org/abs/0810.5357

    with the rather less sensational title:

    Study of multi-muon events produced in p-pbar collisions at sqrt(s)=1.96 TeV

    I'm amused to note that the author list stretches over three pages, which I gather is common for this sort of paper.

  2. CV by Mogget03 · · Score: 5, Informative

    John Conway talks about this over at Cosmic Variance: http://cosmicvariance.com/2008/11/02/cdf-ghost-muons/

  3. Re:One theory of dark matter eh? by mpsheppa · · Score: 5, Informative

    Not to ask the blatantly obvious, but if it's the right mass for one theory of dark matter, I can't help but wonder where they are all being produced. Given a life of 20 picoseconds, I can't imagine that there would be monstrous factories of these things all over the universe to account for the stupidly large amount of mass they are supposed to account for. How come we haven't found them before?

    I thought the same thing at first, but the article states that they are theorizing that the particle produced is not a dark matter particle itself, but rather the particle that carries forces between dark matter particles. It is entirely possible that there are stable dark-matter particles, but for the force-carrying particles to be unstable when produced in isolation.

  4. Re:coincidence? by compro01 · · Score: 5, Informative

    The Tevatron is big money science. the LHC is bigger money science.

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  5. Re:hardly news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    No, a capacitor blew, so they had to de-cool the entire facility to get in and inspect it. Because it's coming into European winter, and the facility takes months to cool, they've had to wait until next year (I'm not sure why it doesn't work in winter, but I'm from warmer climes, so there's probably something about extreme colds I'm not aware of).

    That's because it takes a lot of electricity to cool the collider down. Europeans like to use a lot of electricity to keep their buildings warm in winter, which drives up the price of electricity. So they wait for summer when electricity is cheaper and the giant German solar panel farms are pumping out lots of jiggawatts.

  6. Re:One theory of dark matter eh? by ceoyoyo · · Score: 5, Informative

    More than possible. Of the force carrying particles we know of, only the photon is stable. The graviton, if it exists, should be stable. But the W+/-, Z and all the various flavours of gluons are unstable.

  7. Re:coincidence? by symbolset · · Score: 5, Informative

    The real stuff has gotten pretty tough. I had the challenge once to rework a preproduction board to prove a design change. I was way out of my comfort zone.

    Resistors these days are the size of a juvenile flea. If you drop one, let it go man... it's gone. ICs aren't much better. You have to use IPA and a lintfree cloth just to clean the soldering tweezers. It takes a 60x microscope and a steady hand. I was really regretting my caffeine habit. And the tiny static charges make everything sticky. The leadfree solder takes more heat so you have to be extra careful not so bake the components to death. And don't stab yourself with the tweezers. They look like pencil erasers in the scope but they'll penetrate your skin with no resistance, burning the whole way.

    It worked. It wasn't pretty, but it worked. I am thrilled to have had the experience. I wish I knew a vendor for the surgical point soldering tweezers.

    Respect to the asian ladies in the factory that do this all day for a pittance, with nothing more than a magnifying glass and grim determination.

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